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IIRC, the mouse pointer turning into a hand when you mouse over something clickable was original to HyperCard. And I think Brendan Eich was under a heavy influence of HyperTalk when created JavaScript.


JavaScript felt like it took the best parts of C (concise expressiveness) and the ease of use of HyperTalk (event handlers, easy hierarchical access to objects, etc). It was pretty sweet.


Wasn't the pointer always a hand in HyperCard?


Depended on context, and what the stack programmer set it to. Possibilities (per Fig. 51-1 in _The Complete Hypercard Handbook, 2nd edition_ were:

- watch

- busy

- hand

- arrow

- iBeam

- cross

- plus


And in turn, from the css2 spec:

> auto | crosshair | default | pointer | move | e-resize | ne-resize | nw-resize | n-resize | se-resize | sw-resize | s-resize | w-resize| text | wait | help | <url>

https://www.w3.org/TR/WD-CSS2-971104/ui.html


Hanford.


No. I speak out, and I don't feel safe. It takes courage.


Your bravery is inspiring.


good to know


> It's very rare to see any kind of sensible research when it comes to the science part of CS.

Have you discovered the work of Victor Basili?


Jason Kottke is a well-known developer, and I find his sentiment of being ashamed to be an american resonating.


Ketamine.


Thank you, dang. I think you've done the right thing here, and I'm sure you're also under a lot of stress right now. Thanks for having faith in the community to discuss this amicably.


Thank you!


<3

I sometimes post snarky comments and a tiny version of dang that sits on my shoulder scolds me into editing it.

That's both strange and a testament to your work.


That is me also. Sometimes the bad side of yourself just want to start another war over the internet, but whenever I see Dang I just thought I should edit myself and not make his job any harder than what is already an insane job.


Just wan to say Thank You again. I still dont know how you handle HN all the time. May be some day you could post about tips and tricks or lessons learned from moderating HN.


Thank you for your work.


honestly, having my head in the sand has been keeping me sane… but I acknowledge the coup. Just not sure what I can do, beyond that. Our country has been genocidal since its founding. So, not to be too cynical here, but, same shit, different day, I guess.


Musk Apparently Gutting America


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