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> Because there is other code those experts want to write, and they don't have time to write it all... but what if they could just give a fairly straightforward prompt and have the LLM do it for them?

Then pretty soon they wouldn't be the experts anymore?


Maybe? But you could make the same argument that programmers today aren't "experts" at computers because they don't know how to build CPUs.

There is no reason to believe you can't gain expertise while still using higher and higher level abstractions. Yes, you will lose some of that low level expertise, but you can still be an expert at the problem set itself.


The way I see it, this is only possible because you can trust the lower layers with reliably and predictably enough that you can move up.

If your operating system was regenerated every day slightly differently and with certain things working and others not, you’d quickly revert to the lower predictable abstraction.


> We should demand from our legislators that hardware like this is free of back-doors

In some countries that may be possible (if only for now). Where chips are produced makes that an impossibility for most. That is, you can have certain guarantees if you run the chip fab, although if you are downstream of that, it can be a tall order to guarantee your chips are sovereign. So, while I like the sentiment that you have some sort of control behind your router, I'm really unsure how true that is given the complexity of producing modern day chips. Disclaimer, not an expert, just an opinion.


I would even say unless you truly have full custody of the transportation of components as well, that is unlikely. Israel’s pager bombs in Lebanon were supplied via a third party, not the manufacturer.

This feels like the argument for why not deflationary currency. Said another way, I have a property worth X, but next year it will be worth more because money is deflationary. Why would I want to sell my house this year when I can wait until next year to sell my house and get more money.

That is inflationary. Goods costing more monetary units is inflation. In deflation same amount of monetary units buys more goods. So you would want to sell your house now if you have other options and then next year you could buy similar house and still have monetary units left over...

Deflationary currency is like a highway that you're allowed to park on. People will park their car on the highways and then charge you a fee to let you through.

>Said another way, I have a property worth X, but next year it will be worth more because money is deflationary.

Uhm, if money is deflationary, your house will be worth less than X denominated in the deflationary currency. This means if the money grows in value faster you'd sell all your assets as quickly as possible and replace it with a useless scrap of paper.

>Why would I want to sell my house this year when I can wait until next year to sell my house and get more money.

Again, if money is deflationary, you'd hold onto money and wait for house prices to drop with the aforementioned mechanic.

You might say this is appealing, but the problem is that your income depends on other people's spending and they have the same incentive as you do, which is to earn more than you spend. That's something that is not possible in aggregate, where total aggregate spending and total aggregate income must always be equal. This is a zero sum game purely mathematically and this is not a moral judgement but an explanation how the rules work.

When people follow the rules of the game, something weird happens. The promised outcome of a wealthy society from everyone being prudent savers doesn't emerge. The reason is as follows: If you have 1 million paper notes that represent the wealth of the entire nation and the value of the paper notes goes up, the represented wealth of the entire nation goes up, but the nation still has the same 1 million paper notes. No matter how much value people try to save in the form of money, they will still only have paper notes.

Those paper notes do not have intrinsic value and that is for a good reason. Giving the paper notes intrinsic value doesn't change the fundamentals, it just makes the tokens more expensive to produce. It's like having a golden toilet.

If money is worthless, then trying to give it non-transient value is a fools errand. Trying to say that a house is equally as valuable as a small bundle of cotton fabric is only acceptable for the purposes of accounting, but saying that the same bundle of cotton fabric (whose value is decreed) ought to buy more house next year is batshit insane. You couldn't come up with a better system to reward laziness and idleness.


Yeah, I had it swapped around. "Said another way, I have a property worth X, but next year it will be worth more because money is inflationary."

IRC is still a thing


I love the ethos of this movie. That it was about hacking and building things for fun, not for money and profit. This to me is what hacking and programming has always been about. It's too bad that overinflated salaries and the hype that if you go into software you will make a lot of money has watered down the culture to an extent. And now, with the advent of AI and vibe coding, it's been increasingly difficult (for me) to maintain that sense of newness and enjoyment in the craft when I see million line AI diffs.

Along the lines of ethos, there's also the narrative of freedom of information and anti big money corporation (the plague). I hope that this energy to fight the system and tyranny of control the system represents never dies. Particularly as we watch the darkness of a tyrannical government continue to unfold here in the U.S.


It was right in the tagline: “Their only crime was curiosity.”


Taken straight from The Mentor: https://phrack.org/issues/7/3


Crash + Burn <3


Maybe AI is the tech support too


I've managed to kick all social media except Github. That for me is the most difficult if you want to collaborate on software projects.

No, I don't consider hacker-news to be social media, rather a news aggregator with a message board. Although, I would frequent here less probably if I was on other social media.


I think in the sense that if you look at the ratio of say GDP (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nomi...) to CO2 emission, you could get _a_ metric of efficiency. The product produced vs the emissions produced.


There's a chart that does this directly: https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/co2-intensity


That perspective also helps to understand the position that any call for radical climate action must be a weaponization of competing economies to weaken the leader of the pack. So it is very bad framing. Do the work cheaper, better, and at scale. By doing it more efficiently you win. Oh, and of course you'll be more innovative too.


In some cases, I’d argue it might ironically be a worse metric. Case in point, a large AI adjacent firm like NVIDIA - or even OpenAI - that is both “creating gdp”, but also worsening stuff. I’d say a farmer farming in a sustainable way might have a near 0 gdp compared to Sama, but environmentally is much better.


Agree that not all gdp is equal or beneficial. However, I think most people would be remiss to the idea of giving up on science and technology and a return to the agricultural era.


Agree, to clarify, I’m specifically skeptical of the US GDP as much of it seems of a very bubble-like and speculative nature. Tesla (stock) pre NVIDIA was probably the poster boy for the longest of times.


GDP doesn't differentiate between good and bad things and for climate change it would be border line circular because natural disasters like floods and hurricanes are "good" for the GDP (reconstruction effort is a net positive, destruction itself is not subtracted).


You could argue the useful application has been that of a time-stamping service, which is what you need to order a transaction history.


Yeah at it's core a blockchain based cryptocurrency is a consensus system and decentralised resource market where the resource in question is space in the blocks within some time bound and verifiable proof of the time and state they were accepted in.

That core feature of "providing a total ordering for state changes and events with formal trust bounds" turns out to have a lot of potential uses.

Now of course truly providing correct timestamps or really any clock mechanism in a trustless way turns out to be massively difficult. And not just in a blockchain but really in any decentralised/distributed system. It's a famously unsolved problem.

There's some research[1] on how to go about providing a "global time"/"global clock" for cryptocurrencies without external trust assumptions but it's extraordinarily academic and most if not all systems just assume trusted time within some bound and hope for the best.

1. Permissionless Clock Synchronization with Public Setup - https://eprint.iacr.org/2022/1220


In a sense, a POW blockchain such as bitcoin can convey global time/global clock if all participants understand the average block propagation is 10 "minutes"? Sometimes longer, sometimes shorter but converges to 10 minutes in aggregate.

Over great distances this breaks down given limits on the speeds of transmition (speed of light), however, if transmission was instantaneous (quantum entanglement?), that would solve the dilemma of what does "now" mean light-years away given our relativistic idea of time between here and there.


Oh yeah. Sorry I misspoke a bit. I should have said that global time/clocks are an unsolved problem in non-proof-of-work systems.

Proof of work does a decent job approximating a monotonic clock but that only works when you are expending obscene amounts of energy on a global scale. And like you said it breaks down over longer distances (however luckily we don't have to deal with that too much now).

But in any non-PoW system, a "trustless" global clock is extremely non-trivial.


Thats because POW solves the Byzantine Generals problem as I understand it. Before POW, that problem was intractable (extremeley non-trivial). Its always lammented that so much energy is needed to solve the problem, although that seems to be the nature of the problem. Maybe time and energy are inexorably linked.


Well it's a bit more complex than that but the two are certainly linked given that POW is framed in the context of time complexity of the problem and the adjusting difficulty is just an equation to approximate a clock from the rate of solutions produced for a problem of a given time complexity with an approximate X amount of available resources.


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