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Exactly this. And that is such an important intellectual tool, the ability to extrapolate second and third order decisions and match them to people’s incentives lets you create accurate mental models of multiparty negotiations and interactions and predict how people will act in future situations. It’s really powerful.

Applying here, I would expect trump moves to lift sanctions and normalize trade with Russia. Europe, if it has a spine will sanction the US.


Well the US created the global system starting in the 1900s with the League of Nations and continuing with the UN, NATO, free trade agreement and multilateral alliances. So nearly one hundred years of constant policy across administrations felt it was a system that served our interests. It also lead to absolute transformation of people’s lives for the better in America and globally. Who didn’t like that system? Russia. They were isolated and sanctioned. So please explain why trump’s 180 degree turn served the US. The burden of proof is on you given the history of US policy.

> Who didn’t like that system

Most of the world didn’t like that system, along with most american liberals until five minutes ago. We even made movies mocking it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_America:_World_Police.

Eisenhower thought that system should be temporary, and Jimmy Carter took pride that an american bomb was never dropped anywhere during his term.

Our foreign policy has been stuck in a doom loop of thinking that everything is like World War II for 70 years now. And whatever benefits we might have gained can’t possibly offset what we lost fighting pointless war after pointless war: Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, etc. We have spent trillions of dollars to make the world free for trade that has hollowed out the economy and enriched globalists.

That’s not even counting all the millions of people we have killed in the process of our liberal democracy jihad.


Totally agree with this. It’s also totally irrelevant and a false equivalency. Seeing how quickly a conversation shift to antisemitism is disheartening.

The fact that we have to point this out is so frustrating. My whole family is buy the Russian propaganda entirely. And these basic facts don’t make it through their eco chambers. Worse any evidence is dismissed as fake news. I don’t think America can come back from this. Russia won the Cold War.

This is so absolutely right. Trump is undoing all of the intentional institutions that the USA created. He is literally dismantling nearly one hundred years of consistent effort across every administration to serve US interests by structuring a global system based on a reliable and coherent US foreign policy. It just so happens that this is also the same global system that was used to isolate Russia with sanctions and defense agreements. The amount that Russia gains here is hard to fathom. The US just permanently lost world power status. No one will ever trust the US to be the world leader again. This will be a fundamental and permanent shift.

Biden passed more consequential legislation than almost any president since FDR. The chips act, the inflation reduction act, the infrastructure act. The list goes on and on. He even had a bipartisan immigration bill that was closer to being passed than any other bill. He was an incredibly effective legislative leader while in office.

You can migrate and renounce citizenship. Staying and benefiting from the spending is tacit consent no?

There is no such thing as tacit consent.

The fact that there’s a term for it which we all know suggests otherwise. It’s literally in textbooks, too, so you’d have a better argument if you explained your conceptual disagreement rather than trying to pretend the concept doesn’t exist.

Congress passed laws allocating the spending. That by definition is consent.

They did this without my involvement. Furthermore, the amendment that they claim permits them to steal your money was ratified by representatives who were elected by no people alive today.

The current population had no say whatsoever in these laws. They were born into it like being born into slavery.

There is no “unsubscribe”.


You want all laws to be renewed each generation? Fine, how do you set the renewal date? What about the transition from one law to another? My point is there will always be someone that is subject to a law that was passed prior to them being of the age of consent for a particular law. No serious political theory defines the legitimacy of a law by 100% explicit consent by the governed. Instead the consent given is a broad transfer of the right to govern generally. That’s all that is necessary. I don’t need to consent to everything the police do to protect public safety if I have consented to their general mission.

So raise taxes. The deficit isn’t a problem of spending it’s a problem of repeated tax cuts.

So the conservatives counter with "nu-uh! we just need to cut all government funding and eliminate all government services. then we'll save soooo much money, that we can buy more bombs." Annnnnnnd that's how we get to cutting the funding for cutting edge research.

Micromanaging is not sensible oversight. It’s bad management. A $1 cap is an ignorant, arbitrary cap that seems designed to be punitive and consolidate power not save money. It will cost FAR more money in damage, late fees, early termination fees and other costs.

And your trite inclusion of “orange man” to every post as a method to diminish the op argument betrays your clear bias.


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