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> Russians understand how the Western societies work and how they can be broken

Do you not also think the West understands how Russian society works and how it can be broken?

I find it interesting how we're ignorant of our own propaganda activities in other countries. For example, in the UK we have a dedicated army unit [1] that:

> uses social media such as Twitter and Facebook to influence populations and behaviour [which is] involved in manipulation of the media including using fake online profiles

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/77th_Brigade_(United_Kingdom)#...


> Do you not also think the West understands how Russian society works and how it can be broken?

Authoritarian societies and dictatorships are much harder to influence, let alone break, because they're glued together by fear and the media in them aren't reporting freely. The West also has barely any influence on North Korea. Russia is also well-guarded against foreign influencing campaigns. There is no equivalence between Western countries and dictatorships in that respect.


" I find it interesting how we're ignorant of our own propaganda activities in other countries. For example, in the UK we have a dedicated army unit [1] that: "

No Western countries has attack and annexed a country within idk 60 years?


Yes, we understand how the Russian society works. Or, rather, how it does not work.


@snowpid

Maybe not completely annexed, but we did attack and occupy Afghanistan and Iraq.


> without having to shed a single drop of american blood

And 10's of thousands of Ukrainian dead and wounded, lives and families destroyed, is a small price to pay for American hegemony.


Ah yes, because surely they wouldn't be dead or wounded if the US didn't send weapons their way. Remember the early days of the Russian invasion when Russian soldier raped and killed civilian and made mass graves ?


Both sides use propaganda.


This false equivalence is literally russian propaganda.


This just reads as "propaganda is when people say things I don't like". An actual, academic study of propaganda, such as the course that the University of Nottingham offers, makes clear a very different fact.

The USA is far and away the greatest propaganda engine the world has ever seen, and it hasn't been close since the cold war was raging. We push out our ideologies and force the normalization of American culture onto half of the world. Looking at a globe it's actually harder to find a nation that isn't a client state than is.

The lumbering, outdated regional power that is the current Russian state wishes they could wield propaganda a quarter as well as America.



Really comparing the 'ghost of kiev' to the systemic undermining of western democracy by russia?


There is a definite imbalance. Russia is using it way more aggressively by far. And they actually physically attack us as well


Thats like saying both horses and container ships are used to transport cargo.


Only one side is invading the other in order to annihilate it, and it is Russia.


> the U.K. government could use existing powers to require that the company meet surveillance capability demands as a condition of making a product or feature available.

> If the government’s demands are not met, the company may have no choice but to abandon the product or feature launch, giving the government essentially a veto power on how companies innovate and improve their products

Well, that's going to attract tech companies to the UK /s


> Don't degrade your product. If it gets worse, chances are I won't buy it, no matter for what price you sell it.

Completely agree: recently I wanted some peppermints, and I noticed the sugar had been replaced by "glucose syrup".

I didn't buy them, and I've done this for other products.

Are companies losing sales, which will make them "degrade their product" more as their revenues decline, which will lose sales, and so-on?


I was with you until I read your example: Replacing a something that is almost pure energy to your body with something that is pure energy won't probably make a big change on how healthy your diet is. If you are giving yourself insulin spikes between meals eating candy, your body will not thank you.


I'm in the UK. Looking at my bill, per kWh electricity is 3x more expensive than gas:

electricity: 30.823p

gas: 9.756p

It's much cheaper to heat my house with gas.


> The Tories are obsessed with weakening privacy and data protection laws.

Labour pledged to "toughen" the "weakened and gutted" online safety bill (now the act) [1].

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jan/01/labour-pl...

Edit: clarification.


> Child safety is what is pushed in the press

For example, in yesterday's Guardian [1]. Meta introducing encryption "will let child abusers ‘hide in the dark’".

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/sep/20/meta-encr...


This should get more coverage, as it's a worrying development. The tone of the letter is disturbing.

Surprisingly enough, the mainstream media haven't covered it at all ...


I learnt about it from the BBC News homepage, where it currently remains, but I know they show different front page stories based on location.

But yes, it's a nasty bit of overreach. What's annoying is all the people I see being vocal about it on Twitter are the alt-right or pro-Tory/Telegraph/Mail folks I wouldn't usually want to align with. I suspect the presence of Brand is key to them, and if a similar letter had been written targeting someone on the left, they would be quiet.


> if a similar letter had been written targeting someone on the left, they would be quiet.

The author of the letter, Dame Dinenage, is a Tory MP. To my mind, the letter is quite mild; there are no threats or demands, just questions. In view of her job as Chair of the Culture, Media and Sport committee, it seems a reasonable letter to write (even on House of Commons notepaper).


> If UK citizens don't want such laws, they can always protest, at the voting booth or in the streets.

Protest has been restricted [1], and neither the Conservatives or Labour offer different positions. For example, Labour have pledged to "toughen" the OSB [1].

[1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56400751 [2] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jan/01/labour-pl...


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