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    User: Be offensive!
    LLM: *Is offensive*
    Social media: OMG how could this happen?!?!? Why didn't Elon stop it?!?


More like they are going out of their way to collect offensive training data.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1936493967320953090


User: whom would you worship? LLM: Is offensive Social media: Offended Also social media: but if you ignore reality, you can make up a funny story about Social media!


The "be offensive" goading only happened long after Grok had already started going off the rails to pretty innocuous queries.

This is not the first time Grok has exhibited this behaviour either (i.e. the random white genocide rants from a few months back).

There is a big difference between a model being "breakable" and a model demonstrating inherent radical bias. I think people are right to be concerned.


You are misrepresenting the situation. Users gave neutral questions and the generated response literally began praising Hitler.


It certainly is fast, but I'm curious if LLMs ever will figure out how bitshifts work..

e.g. from the playground: `static const uint64_t MERSENNE_PRIME = (1ULL << 127) - 1;` which it insists is the correct way to store a 128-bit integer in followup questions.


For 128-bit values in C++, you'd need uint128_t (compiler extension) or a library like Boost.Multiprecision since 1ULL << 127 overflows the 64-bit type before subtraction occurs.


Neat idea, the 'search' feature is a bit odd though if you don't know which instruction you are looking for. e.g. searching for 'SHA' shows the autocomplete for platforms not selected and then 0 results due to the filters (they haven't been added for SSE/AVX yet), but searching for 'hash' gets you 100 results like '_mm256_castsi256_ph' which has nothing to do with the search.


Thanks for your comment. We have noticed some strange behavior with the “search” feature, you are right to mention that & we are currently trying to improve its performance. Regarding the SHA you don’t get any results when filtering out NEON or VSX, because the AVX512 SHA intrinsics hasn’t been added yet (under dev atm). When searching for “HASH”, the first 3 results that you get are correct (NEON), the other ones are as mentioned before are bad behavior of the search component - it must have found some similarity.


It's funny that one of their main arguments is that "verified" users used to mean trustworthy information. Like no one remembers Twitter before Musk where you'd get verified by having a blog with the right politics, wrote an article for an outlet the staff liked, was friends with staff, or just straight up paid one to give you the badge..


That was for the base of the ship, so that they could add more sensors.


Or she just looked over at how well Tumblr did after banning pron and decided to let let people do their own thing in their own corner =P


You can say "porn" here, it's ok.


"pron" sounds funnier. I still think "My toothbrush started to shit the bed" is out of place (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36284643).


I've been using stb for very (too) many years. As have many of my friends.

Might be a uk thing, but I hear it often from USians, too.


tumblr kind of had their hand forced by apple on that one. I don't think that would happen to twitter in the same way, especially with the appstore rules they already have a carveout for.


While not 'evidence' per se, it's a common trend with monopolies (e.g. Xerox back in the day) to shift engineering/R&D budgets to marketing for a better ROI.


The X algorithm is also opensource, so you can verify before commenting..


X algorithm Github project hasn't been updated in 8 months:

https://github.com/twitter/the-algorithm

So clearly they aren't running it in production.

Also they didn't open source the list of people who are being artificially boosted e.g. Elon.


just because they open sourced it doesn't mean that's actually what they're running on it though


It's not like he needs boosting, he was one of Twitter's top followed accounts long before he bought them. He's pretty good at getting attention.


And yet it’s not enough to curb the desire to tip the scales.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/02/report-musk-had-...


No idea about the current state, but the open sourcing did show, they were favoring elon:

https://mashable.com/article/twitter-releases-algorithm-show...

And personally I never used Twitter much, but I certainly did not follow Elon Musk when I did - yet I had to see lot's of his posts in my feed. Surely just coincidence.


> they were favoring elon

No, and that's not what the article says either. They were just tracking how well his tweets were doing versus others. They were not favoring Elon.


"They were just tracking how well his tweets were doing versus others. "

Yeah, and adjusting it, so he comes out best. That was Musks demand, as the other article shows, that is linked inside, after a Biden tweet performed better than Musk:

https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-super-bowl-joe-biden-...

They officially boost people, who pay a little bit. Elon payed a lot.

And the source is clearly not the production source and never where in this shape - otherwise why sue someone, who open sourced it?

"But, the release of this source code also comes days after Twitter forced Github to take down other parts of Twitter's source code that was allegedly posted by a former employee without the company's permission. So, clearly, there's still plenty of Twitter that Musk still doesn't want us to see."

Also, you probably missed that:

"Zoë Schiffer of Platformer reported that Twitter actually removed part of the source code that affected the reach of Musk's and other user's tweets before releasing the algorithm to the public."

Which is consistent with quite some other statements, also from Twitter itself and the fact, that the source has not been updated in 8 months.

See also this HN comment and discussion about it:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35391854

"But the underlying policies and models are almost entirely missing (there are a couple valuable components in [1]). Without those, we can't evaluate the behavior and possible effects of "the algorithm.""


It's not too hard to believe it is a coincidence when the most followed person on a platform shows up in your feed, especially if you follow tech accounts.


Did you not read the article linked in the comment you're replying to?


Sounds a bit far fetched

So changes in power users stats would also result in audience balancing?

Most likely the code was used for analytics and for tracking balance; Elon was a pain in the ass and asked to have custom analytics for his account and devs eventually added him as an audience to be able to get analytics about him easily. A bit dirty but it works.

Most likely the balancing code is somewhere else and it affects only republican / democrats.


IIRC There was some followup hikers that explored and found a cave/entrance near a military area which sort of looked like the described one, only that it had been caved in (which they couldn't judge if natural or man-made). Not sure about the 'validity' or if they just wanted to contribute to the story.


This video summary contains exactly that:

https://youtu.be/AazxDk1ODVo

And actually - it has 2 "M Cave" candidates which people have visited since. One - probably the wrong cave (high up, when M Cave was ground level). The other one, I feel it's a tall order that it's been "filled in". While strange, the M-Shaped cave found mostly filled with different colored sedimentary rock, it doesn't resemble any kind of man-made mortar/concrete/etc.

The military's style is to just pour high PSI concrete into a mold and call it a day, not to try to emulate natural sedimentary rock and half-ass block a cave in a way that a prybar can get past.

All in all - the real M Cave (if indeed there was one to begin with), it's appearance and approximate location is only known to someone who is not likely to ever be seen again.



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