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I’ve never heard anyone brag about giving working PIPs. PIPs are pretty demoralizing even if they “work”.

Maybe you should consider giving people feedback in non-PIP form!


Sometimes people are in lala land and don’t realize the stakes until the heat gets turned up so far.

Honest question: what am I supposed to be demanding from WPEngine? They’re not the ones out there posting unhinged rants.


That's not an honest question.

If you are completely fine with WPEngine's commercial practices, trademark violations in their marketing materials ( like it or not ) and moral OK for them not picking up part of the bill of what they consume ( talking about infra resources, not even talking about code ), then.. why the f** are you so bothered by an unhinged rant from some guy? It's GPL after all.. Don't you see the irony? or you just want to see it because Matt is kind of an unlikable dbag? Is that the level of depth we are at when cheerleading for this stuff?


How are you allowed to tell me if that's an honest question or not? Do I have some hidden WP Engine shill comments in my history or something? Can you read my mind?

I don't have a strong opinion on WP Engine's behavior, because I'm not convinced by Matt's arguments. I do have an opinion on Matt's behavior though. I think it's unhinged.

Feel free to respond but I'm done with this conversation, given how unpleasant I feel it's going to be given the incredibly uncharitable tone in your response. I recommend taking a walk or something.


There’s no reason you can’t do both, and indeed some a11y linters recommend doing that


I'm in the same boat as GP. Was invited early, loved the Arc UX far more than any other browser. I've recommended it to many people.

As many other comments have pointed out, this vulnerability is such a rookie mistake that I don't think I can trust them again after this without understanding what factors in their security/engineering culture led to it. Patching this one issue isn't enough.


Also it requires both hands


Not GP but I would never use bare JS again for anything other than maybe like a 20 line script, for the same reasons as GP


Paying a non-trivial portion of your engineers high salaries will kill any startup without unlimited money, regardless of what other guardrails you have in place.


This is the weirdest sentiment out of the entire article. "Only hire A-players" and "monitor them". I know exactly 0 A-hire engineers who would tolerate being monitored. Why wouldn't they leave to go to one of the many companies that would love to have them and where they won't have someone breathing down their neck?

Perhaps it's a take on how bad the job market is right now, but I still disagree. There are far fewer job prospects out there but way more than 0.


Lots of comments here saying "it's just marketing". I agree to some extent, but Datadog is easily the worst offender I've ever seen.

I work on a small engineering team and more than half the team got calls to their personal numbers and emails from Datadog. They are relentless. It's a huge turn-off, and I hope companies like this get named-and-shamed more often.


I haven’t seen anyone saying the founders shouldn’t have done this or that they wouldn’t have done the same in their shoes. I’m allowed to be happy for the founders and also hate Adobe and worry about the future of a product I use at the same time


Yes of course, but that’s very different from “I am so traumatized that I’m giving up design as a professional interest” which I’ve seen in a few comments and tweets.


I don’t understand why people pretend a few radical/obscure internet comments is proof of a belief system.

No one is traumatized by this and no one is giving up their profession.


Pretend?

Like read the threads dude, some people are seriously upset to the point of questioning their careers. Believe what you want of course. From the reactions I see on my own corporate slack whenever there are big changes announced, sensitivity and poor coping skills are in abundance.



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