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I think a lot of us aren’t rational about it. I tend to feel excited about changes for which productivity is a side effect, even if it’s not my motivation. It’s hard to say no to extending my capabilities and insulating myself from the more boring repetitive tasks.

If your job was 80-90% shoveling and one day you were offered use of an excavator, wouldn’t you find that exciting even while realizing the shoveling part of your career is probably dead?


My thinking tends to be that our standard work week is an equilibrium among a few different forces. We’re motivated by social norms, capital markets, and biological needs and wants. In places like the U.S. the market forces have been powerful enough to really shift social norms. In tandem they’re probably slowly altering our biology too.

I think you are right. It is practically baked into the American Dream.

Computer fun is inversely proportional to number of investors.

Simply because people prior to VC used time to make fun stuff. After VC came in and bought up that time to make more money, the fun stuff disappeared.

Or in other words: I made an extension to dumb down my professional network and unexpectedly found real human feelings


I’ve been playing with nanoclaw since it came out, which has similar use cases to openclaw. I initially set it up to monitor various news sources for me about specific theses I’ve had. I had it grooming its growing knowledge base, trying to make connections. It would check in with me about certain goals I had.

My current take is that these projects are alluring for a kind of personal productivity or workflow tinkering. They are integration hubs centered around an LLM. Automation can be fun, like running model trains or setting up home assistant. And you can learn the shape of the technologies by tinkering. But I’m doubtful they have improved productivity in real world cases.

Maybe I’m using it wrong and I need to be spending a ton of tokens with a dark factory pattern and a fleet of claws creating new religions? Then I’ll see the benefits?


I read this and feel happier for it. Keep it up OP! I like imagining a world where more people are curious, kind, and open to connecting.


I think there’s also perhaps an organizational explanation.

A reasonable TUI can be built without any design or frontend people even looped in.

Collaboration and coordination tend to slow down processes and flatten outputs.


Is this an investment that disease and genetics researchers believe will be valuable?

Or is this primarily tax deductible funds flowing back into the AI industrial complex?

(Honest question! If it’s a truly promising path that’s great)


They already donate a lot of useful money via the Chan Zuckerberg Institute so there’s a good track record at least


Chan Zuckerberg Institute doesn't produce much actual research it's mostly fancy dinners, global travel for congresses and conferences and big opulent parties. They actually got in trouble in the building with the landlord for too many parties, there was a problem drunken individuals peeing in the hallways when they had Justin Bieber and other celebs on site (seriously).


Purely anecdata but I know many people who have had their work funded through CZI. And no, this wasn't drunken parties.



Lol cool anecdote. Guess karma for hating on billionaires is more important than saving lives.


It is a valuable initiative, regardless of Zuckerbergs personas.


An attempt to live forever IMO.


Is that an issue?


Just in that it’s not gonna work.


Why not? No law of physics prevents it and we already have examples of (albeit simpler) organisms that can live forever. Worst case scenario, we grow a clone of your body, transplant your brain into it, then somehow repair the spinal cord and slowly replace your brain tissue piece-by-piece. Might be a difficult engineering challenge but it’s 100% possible.


They will probably do a rugpull like what they with their children school funding.


Alternate theory: part of the reason they stopped funding the school is to allocate their philanthropy to projects like this one.


It's also what they did with meta.org (a trademark grab followed by a rugpull): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meta_(academic_company)


Thank you, Zed team, for creating Zed. It’s clearly a labor of love, and I really want Zed to work for me. It seems like a quality project, it’s fast, and the base editor is easy to use.

I gave it weeks though, and the surrounding UI just never clicked for me. The various AI panels are confusing, the global search is awkward, and something about the type rendering just didn’t ever look right (maybe I’m hallucinating this?). I use VS Code only grudgingly, but I do think its ergonomics are actually pretty reasonable. I came from Sublime before that. I’ll keep trying Zed, and I hope you succeed.


Yes I’ve noticed this as well! Now whenever I get a question of this format, I just relax the constraint.


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