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> i.e. not looking at the actual code

You must be kidding me.


> There's a new kind of coding I call "vibe coding", where you fully give in to the vibes, embrace exponentials, and forget that the code even exists.

https://x.com/karpathy/status/1886192184808149383

Forgetting code exists is by definition not suitable for serious work. However, OP said in the following paragraph, that this would be a first draft, and that the code would actually be reviewed and tested properly before being integrated.

At which point it is by definition no longer vibe coding, because you do care about the code! It's just an AI assisted workflow, but now we call all of those vibe coding for some reason. (Naming things is hard!)

If vibe coding means not caring about the code, then a literal translation of the term would be "not caring about coding" coding.


> Forgetting code exists is by definition not suitable for serious work

This is just like everyone who says, “An iPad is not suitable for serious work.”

By which they (and you) generally mean, “What I do is serious work. What you do is unserious work.”

I think I do serious work – I mean they pay me for it? And I have only copy/pasted and just run whatever code’s been generated by AI for the past 12 months or so. Whenever I can I just let the AI run it itself.

Sad to learn that I’ve been so unserious all this time.

> Naming things is hard!

Indeed.


Well, are you reading the code? If not, how can you vouch for the correctness?


No, not reading the code. I vouch for the correctness because it runs and produces output that is useful. It might not be 100% right but neither was the code I wrote by hand.


I find funny the trend of software engineers being shocked at the idea that someone would issue a set of instructions to a coder and not look at the code, or only glance at it.

How do you think the world has worked for the past thirty years? AI has just caught up with human skill is all.


What OP said works quite well for a lot of tasks, and if you've set up base instructions on coding style they (Codex, Claude) generate code accordingly.

A key point is that after the "vibe" session you should also have a lot of tests written. So they can easily refactoring the code afterwards if there are major aspects you don't like when you get back to your desktop.


Unbelievable. This is the silent de-skilling of this industry.

Imagine saying that you don't need to look at the roads or have no hands on the wheel whilst driving because someone-else said that the car can 'drive' itself; therefore, no need for anyone (including taxi drivers) to learn how to drive.

Just because a machine can generate plausible looking code does not mean you don't need to look at it or not know how it works or why it doesn't work.


The most important lesson from Gen AI is that it does not matter how much money you have, make, lose, or spend because in the long run everyone is…

So the logical next step is to focus on Biological Immortality and short of that Digital Immortality. God speed everyone.


Meanwhile, homebrew install instructions:

/bin/bash -c "$(curl -fsSL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Homebrew/install/HEAD/inst...)"

Then it prompts user for admin previledges. Also, it does not support installing as a local non-admin user.


I would agree if it was the only way to install Homebrew, but it is not.

You can install it via a .pkg here: [0]

[0] https://github.com/Homebrew/brew/releases/tag/5.0.13


Does it still do the "you can't install via sudo, that's a security risk" while not allowing a non-admin install? I laugh and I cry.

Why does anyone trust that project to understand security?


MacPorts, of course, features an actual .pkg installer, as well as doing pretty much everything else better, and having more packages, and existing first.


I use brew but willing to try out Macports. How come the package install instructions seem to require sudo under macports? Does that not carry more risk during the install ?


Because it requires access to /opt/local. It drops down to the macports user for all the actual fetching and management.


Is anyone still working on functional immortality? Are we going to get SAGI before it? How is the head/body freezing scene nowadays?


This is a very condescending toward Vietnamese tech people. According to Twitter/X, Vietnam’s GDP just surpassed Thailand and it’s on its way to joining the Great East Asian prosperity zone by becoming the last country to become fully industrialized and very rich. Many tech jobs in the US will move to Vietnam in the coming few years. You will be surprised where your future Tech conferences will be located.


You're on the money with the rest of this, but...

> Many tech jobs in the US will move to Vietnam in the coming few years.

It would seem to me that India has that on lock.


The complainer is a self-proclaimed policy wonk. I am sure he knows all the corrext policies to enforce include NSFW content policies. Heck, looking at his comment history, I get the impression that he might be a policy wonk in everything.


Good riddance. The web needs to shed all the old baggages like this to move forward. Looking forward to MCP becoming part of the browser.


Wow, I couldn't disagree more.

XSLT is no more "baggage" than HTML itself. Removing it in no way "moves the web forward". And integrating technologies part of the current hype cycle, which very well may disappear in a year, is a terrible idea.


The most interesting question is how many management positions got axed as part of this.


The first level or two of management are completely useless and operate more as “slave drivers” than engineers.


No


In other news, global productivity measures have mysteriously increased significantly in the last 25 minutes.


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