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It's definitely been amplified severely by agent coding, but what's worse is that the most meme hustle-culture part of bringing ideas to life has been the most magnified, because it's the easiest. I started paying less and less attention when the whole "just get yourself a mailing list to test there's a market for your product" meme started gaining popularity, but people were at least constrained by the time it took to cobble together a generic landing page with an email signup. Now there's effectively no limit to how many shadcn boilerplate email collectors can be tossed together in a night. The more of that redundant stuff gets put on Show HN, the less I check it, but also the less I trust the "products" or the potential products, and that doesn't seem like it would be in anyone's best interest.

I've been an Android & Mac & Windows user for the last 15 years, (Windows just for gaming), iOS only on an old iPad, and have no plans to change that, but while I do have frustrations with all 3 systems, iOS is wildly irritating to me. Thankfully I've only been forced to use it on a phone for a short term work requirement, but my god I was happy to not have an iPhone in my life after that. Keyboard and notifications were unavoidably annoying to interact with. I've always loved Apple hardware though, and hope that they can turn things around on the mac software side

I'm staying away from Tahoe for now as well, but are there any bugs in the 6.x release?

GitHub reports that there are 242 open issues labeled "Bug".

https://github.com/Ranchero-Software/NetNewsWire/issues?q=is...


That's a tough one, but considering it's only the 7th major version to come out in 23 years, I'd say that's a fairly safe place to demarcate backwards compatibility, considering that it's (probably) a fairly major UI overhaul on both iOS and Mac. Despite the poor quality of the OSes themselves, it's just a small studio, gotta pick your battles carefully. You can still use the version you're using, and if you ever upgrade to the new OS you can get the new version, seems reasonable enough to me

> gotta pick your battles carefully

Ok, and how is wasting time making the design worse to follow the OS instead of spending that time implementing missing features a carefully picked battle? I thought the philosophy was prioritizing quality

> You can still use the version you're using

Which would be missing bug fixes and those slow features the may be added next year


The app has always followed the masOS design language, because the app is built using the native macOS tools. It makes sense for it to match the OS it's on, apps built with stand UI components migrated to 'Liquid glass' much easier.

The app is open source (https://github.com/Ranchero-Software/NetNewsWire), feel free to back-port any features or bug-fixes you would like to spend your time on.


It doesn't make sense because the previous version also matches the OS it's on, liquid glass degradation isn't mandatory and "much easier" is still harder than doing the better nothing.

Your suggestion is just as senseless: among the many things wrong with such a "write the app yourself" approach, you forgot about iOS, even though it's mentioned in the original comment, where you can't freely backport anything due to distribution being locked down


It makes sense. Like you said, previous versions used the macOS design language at the time, and the current version does the same. The developer has chosen to no longer support older versions of macOS, they aren't required to. The old app still works, and anyone else can work on it if they want.

> you forgot about iOS, even though it's mentioned in the original comment, where you can't freely backport anything due to distribution being locked down

Yes you can. You can create an app today that is compatible with iOS 15.


> You can create an app today that is compatible with iOS 15.

You forgot to address the point, which was about distribution, not creation

The previous paragraph is similarly irrelevant, for example, "aren't required to" - who said anything about requirements??


You create a backport just for yourself for your own device without needing the store, no distribution/App Store is needed.

You don't like some of the Liquid Glass stuff... fine, make something else. The old versions still work, I don't really know what you are complaining about. This level of support and polish in a free app is amazing.


> You create a backport just for yourself for your own device without needing the store, no distribution/App Store is needed.

It is needed, you can't install a custom app permanently on iOS. By the way, what if you only have iOS and not a Mac? How would you compile your backport?

> The old versions still work

I've already addressed it, come back with something meaningful rather than repeat

> I don't really know what you are complaining about.

I've explained it to you several times, maybe you can get that knowledge by reading the conversation carefully?


I know what you’re complaining about, I just think it’s silly at this point.

Old versions work still, you can create your own. The app has had lengthy and good support — which you can extend if you choose.


We get it, you don't like liquid glass, neither do I. But the source is available and there are alternatives to both MacOS and netnewswire.

No, you don't get it, otherwise you wouldn't repeat/add irrelevant points to a thread filled with them

Sure, keep whining pointlessly then.

This is amazing. Incidentally, I've always enjoyed Blizzard's UI art style/textures, in-game and on their website. To me it felt like a hallmark of the quality they used to hold their games to, and it was only once in a rare while I'd see some other website put so much work into their art direction

You can luck your way into being a super Type A manipilative boomer with good taste before personal computers became a thing, before everyone was effectively required to have degree, and knowing a hobbyist electrical engineer who's capable of making a computer from scratch and not Type A.

Looks great I don't have a nees for it, but I'm also happy to see more specialized tools being built natively for macOS, despite Apple's poor releases lately. I have no plans to use anything but a mac in the near future, and normally am happy to pay for a well-crafted mac first app.

Did you use or have any problems with SwiftUI that you found workarounds for? It's been a while since I've played with it, but last I checked it was a bit underperforming and opaque


Seems like this is just an extension of any other dispute, and failure to resolve conflict between neighbors, perhaps due to lack of community cohesion between the store owner and yourself or others. This is the nature of living, and if there are problems, we should have ways to resolve it without crazy blanket rules like no commercial next to residential. The failure is in the reasons become homeless and in responding to people who actively disrupt the peace and intrude, not the existence of a store.

It's not just that it's not a fundamental characteristic of stores, but it's also not a fundamental characteristic of homeless people, it's just a characteristic of these homeless people and this store. Depending on the type of store, I'd grant you that other issues could have arisen, such as rodents, smells, etc.. but also any other neighbor could be hosting parties, smoking near your window, leaving debris around. In some cases, you either need to accept it, adapt, or find somewhere else to live.

I had a neighbor in the burbs growing up that didn't like the way we behaved on our property, or how it looked, and stuck her nose in and intruded frequently, often threatening to call the police for all sorts of absurd reasons.


> Speaking from experience, children (generally) aren't very good at predicting how best to spend their time, which is why involved parents are so important.

I don't disagree, but adults aren't either, they just have clearer incentives. Disconnect the incentives from the desired behaviour, or make the reward any more ambiguous than not being rained on, getting more currency, or preventing their kid from being deceased, and adults are just as lost much of the time.

Case in point, the tendency for people to consider skateboarding an unoptimal use of time, but (often) simultaneously be confused about why they're lonely and fat in midlife. Kids look to their parents as models for success, but haven't yet had their judgement manipulated, and can see right through all the bullshit while they watch them rot away commuting by car and sitting in front of the TV. There's no convincing argument these people have against social media, because they're telling their kids not to poison themselves with degenerate laziness and addiction while engaging in degenerate laziness and addiction, in addition to not being able to offer the incentives otherwise that they'd have had not to do that.

"Don't play videogames, you'll get bad grades"

"What do grades mean?"

"They'll let you get into a good school"

"What will a good school do for me?"

"It'll help you get a good job"

"What does it mean to get a good job?"

"Well, back in my day, you'd eventually get a house and maybe have some kids"

"Ya but what about now or 10 years from now?"

"I guess... you'll be able to rent more videogames.. run along then"


> Now, I'm not a wetland expert, so maybe someone will chime in and tell me why every inch of freshwater shoreline must be undisturbed. But I like freshwater swimming and suspect that we can allocate some space for human recreation.

Are you prevented from fresh water swimming because you can't fabricate a beach for yourself, even if you own the property next to it? Seems like a strange complaint


Crawling through brush to get to the water isn't fun.

Besides, half the fun of the "beach" is the clearing where you can sit and read a book or play in the sand.


Do you need to own a beach to go to the beach?

Do you understand the point of owning lakefront property?

To ruin the natural ecology so that you don't have to share a swimming hole with anyone else in your community?

Apparently not, I should be more down to earth, but there's so much brush in the way. Usually, if I want to go to the beach though, I'll just go to the beach, it's not so complicated

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