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That is exactly the point.


If you're just looking for somewhere to post some content, we run an indieweb-compatible service: https://withknown.com ;)

It's about not having control over your representation online. For me, it's also about freedom of identity, and freedom to dictate your own content standards.


Diaspora is one product, whereas the indie web is a set of really lightweight technologies that allow you to join in from virtually any website. It's not dependent on any one vendor or project.

I think the coolest bit is that each of the pieces is so simple that a coder can get up and running from scratch in an afternoon. That's very different to a lot of the federated social web technologies to date.


The indieweb is a social web where everyone runs their own profile, on their own (sub)domain, potentially on their own servers - while being able to talk to their friends as easily as they could on Facebook or Twitter.

All based on open technologies, rough consensus, user-centered design and running code, rather than endless mailing lists and technical debate.


That sounds like (GNU Social) + (Diaspora) - (Distributed Content)

Sounds great until your (sub)domain(s) gets censored or targeted.


If a profile gets censored / targeted, it's one profile, vs an entire social network. But, eg, content being replied to is typically duplicated across profiles, so there actually is distribution of content.


People are also working on that. The full stack needs an upgrade, and it's nice to see that happening across the board.

It's more than blog + XFN + pingbacks. The combination of technologies really does allow for decentralized social activities (not just replies), potentially in real-time.

If you don't want to mess with a server, we started an indieweb platform at https://withknown.com. You can always take all your data and move to your own server later on.


There are some pretty good proposals about spam. So far it hasn't been a problem, but it's good to have tools in place.


We're working on that. :)


It's probably inexperience. I'd try and talk them up a bit.

But other commenters are right: pay attention to the salary, the benefits and the position itself. The equity is a lottery ticket. I do believe they should correct the amount to make you feel valued, but that's the only reason.


I think this is really important. It would be very wrong to dismiss it with tone policing or other superficial commentary. The underlying point is that there are a lot of women in the technology industry who believe - rightly - that they are being mistreated.

That's not necessarily to say that the rest of us are doing it deliberately (although some undoubtedly are). But it's important to grow our own awareness and build more inclusive cultures at our startups, and continue to be aware, work on improving ourselves, and, more than anything else, listen.

I'm down with Uber for cats though. Maybe with VR and drones?



> It's not proposing anything other than taking your ball and leaving, which just makes it worse for the women who choose to stay.

I don't see how it makes thing worse for the women who choose to stay in existing environments. If the strategy of setting up organizations on the model proposed works, how concretely will it make things worse for women who choose to remain in other firms?

> Awareness is important, but this is an unproductive way to spread it.

I don't think this is an effort to spread awareness. I think this is an expression that spreading awareness has, from its author's (or authors') perspective, been done but that awareness hasn't translated into adequate improvements in substantive conditions, and that the way to improve substantive conditions is to build organizations that from day one lack the features that have produced the bad conditions that awareness has failed to cure.


I think that's more than fair, and I don't understand why anyone would have any problem with building better organizations. The response to "women are having a shitty time in the tech industry" should be "let's fix this and its root causes, because it will make our companies better," not a lot of the sexist knee-jerk reactions we've seen.


"because it will make our companies better" is an OK reason, I guess, but I prefer "because it is the right thing to do for our fellow human beings".


Go for both. Some people will be more motivated by doing the right thing, some will be more motivated by making more money. The two are compatible.

Yes, it would be nice if (all, or at least enough) people were motivated by "doing the right thing" to fix things. Human beings being what they are, though, money as a motivator works pretty well.


I strongly agree with you on a personal level, but I also think there's something to be said for a non-ideological brass tacks bottom line approach (particularly in a community like HN). I genuinely wish that the ideological reason played well everywhere, but I'm not sure it does.

As another commenter has said: both are good.


Please. I'd be happy to hear what steps you believe are more productive.

I'm kind of sick hearing men dismiss anything women (and other men!) are trying to do to raise awareness to these inequalities, as if they have nothing to do with it.

We (men) need to actively work to resolve gender inequalities in our workplaces and in any place, and the least we can do is be supportive allies. [1][2][3][4]

[1] - http://www.scn.org/friends/ally.html

[2] - http://everydayfeminism.com/2013/11/things-allies-need-to-kn....

[3] - http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Allies

[4] - http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Resources_for_allies


This is awesome: exactly the kind of simplicity the personal server market needs. I dropped you an email; really interested in making Known work with the platform.


Awesome, thank you. I'll reply to your email, but the answer is definitely yes!

I've created a number of SaaS services over the years and the pain of building a scaleable service shouldn't have to be repeated by every single app developer. It's a huge distraction from building a great app.

It shouldn't take much work to get Known running as a one-click auto-upgrading app, but I look forward to your feedback on the process. Thanks!



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