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Been using Firefox as main browser since it was called Mozilla.

It's the only desktop application I've consistently installed on every desktop for that long. This is the end of that era and ends the streak.

It's as frustrating as it's sad.


What are you replacing it with?


This is getting niche enough that I'd doxx myself :^)

Check out everything recommended elsewhere in this thread though! And strive to compile your own fork based on whatever.


Rather than downloading random binaries from random forks (or clamour for governance at the sidelines), you can take back more control by building your own fork.

Librewolf and Waterfox are two fine choices to use for upstream sincr they have saner defaults and make the forking and building easier to wire up.

Ive been running my own FF fork for a few years like this now.


Submission prompted by the new Firefox privacy notice https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43185909


Previous version: https://web.archive.org/web/20250219051713/https://www.mozil...

New version: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/privacy/firefox/

> Firefox also shares information with our marketing partners to measure and improve these campaigns; what information is specifically shared varies (depending on how you discovered Firefox and your operating system) but generally includes how you were referred to our download page and whether you actively use Firefox. Where Firefox is pre-installed on your device, technical and interaction data (your device type and whether Firefox is used) will be sent to our marketing partners, and shared with Mozilla. Learn more about what is collected and shared, and how to opt out.

This is new (There's no link or further reference for that "learn more" in context)


This is also new, and very broad and unqualified:

> We may also be required to process your personal data to comply with applicable laws and protection purposes, such as:

> (...)

> Identifying, investigating and addressing potential fraudulent activities, or other harmful activities such as illegal activities, cyberattacks or intellectual property infringement (including filing or defending legal claims).

> Performing internal compliance and security activities, such as audits and enterprise security management.

---

Being US, how far stretch is it to imagine PII being under scope for some anti-DEI (aka anti-terror) audit? Also you better switch browsers if you'll ever be in a lawsuit with Mozilla I guess...


TBF it sounds more like grandma


> but I'm not sure why they would

Because that's the expectation that was set by Mullenwegs words and actions. Who ever said you need to be under oath for deception to take place?


Apparently libel laws aren't a thing because you're not under oath now or something along those lines.


Per my comment on another message, it seems like Matt was telling the truth, but not the whole truth, which is probably more than he was legally required to do.


Apple already did set that precedent during last year with their responses to the EU DMA.

In fact I find the difference in how they handle the two very telling.


Right. In current environment it would certainly behoove any other attacker to associate themselves with assumed DPRK entities. Why not take inspiration of their laundering patterns and "donate" some fraction of the bounty to their wallets as cover?

Pinning things on Lazarus is in interest of US agencies, the victim themselves, and industry media.


Where precisely is the "verbal abuse" and "name calling"?

Chill. I think you are the one overescalating, here.


Sex can be about ego-gratification for females at least as much as for males I believe. Probably even more.

Projecting much or where did you learn about this distinction?


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