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"You come at the king, you best not miss" - Omar Little


"If you want to kill someone without people knowing they were the actual target, wait until they stand next to the President" - Bobby Lee Swagger (could also be a line from that old dude in his cabin)



The URL in the posting here used to redirect to GPL3, not to any of the "old licenses".

The indication of that is given by internet archive which recorded that redirect:

https://web.archive.org/web/20230215001250/https://www.gnu.o...


It's indicative of the rift between FSF and Linux developers that the GPL v2 is on the "Old Licenses" page and "kept here for reference." I'll understate this; Linux is a fairly important project that still uses the GPL v2 license.


It's infeasible for Linux to switch to GPLv3, even if Linus and every Linux dev alive today wanted to, so it's a moot point.


Only because Linus supports tivoization.


Linus on why he doesn't like the GPLv3 - https://youtu.be/PaKIZ7gJlRU

The start of the video:

Q: do you agree that you undermine GPL version 3 and how can I get you to stop

Linus: what

Q: how can we get you to stop

Linus: oh I hate GPL version 3 undermined it on purpose I actually thought the GPL version 3 extensions were horrible. I understand why people would want to do them but I think it should have been a completely new license. My argument for liking version 2 - and I still think version 2 is a great license - was that I give you source code you give me your changes back we're even. Right - that's that's my take on GPL version 2 it's that simple and version 3 extended that in ways that I personally am really uncomfortable with; namely I give you source code that means that if you use that source code you can't use it on your device unless you follow my rules and to me that's that's a violation of everything version 2 stood for ...

Tiviozation is specifically called out 2:33.

Driver compatibility and one way license changes preventing reincorporation of code at 3:30


Linus cared about software, not hardware devices.

Linus chose not to try to define "general purpose computer", Stallman's threshold for what kind of hardware should run Free(Libre) software.

Stallman, usually quite orthodox, had to carve out "general purpose computers" from "legitmiate appliances". He decided that Tivo is a "general purpose computer" but a microwave is not. Linus drew the line at the software/hardware boundary.

Affero GPL is much more interesting, as it closes the "someone else's machine" loophole for the "distribution" trigger. This is more extreme than Tivoization.


And because Linus just does not give a fuck. He is an engineer, not a politician, and the GPLv2 to this day is serving its purpose, and Linux‘ success proves him right.


Unless you have a parallel universe generator, I'm not sure how you could prove that sticking to the GPLv2 has been more successful than moving to V3.


Its success proves that GPL v3 was not needed to spur such success. That's not a judgement on whether v3 is "better" by some measure or other. It's a realistic measure that the modifications in v3 weren't needed for Linux to continue existing and flourishing.

  A != B does not imply that !B = A


Then I misunderstood what the GPP was trying to say, as it read to me that they were saying that Linus was right in sticking to the GPLv2.

My thought is that simply that he wasn't wrong, which is what you are then repeating back to me.


Unless Linus and the team want to re-write a bunch of GPLv2 kernel code (and modules), they are stuck with GPLv2 whether they want to change it or not. Linux is now over 30 and some of the original authors are no longer here to authorize a change in their copyright license.

https://lwn.net/Articles/169158/


Might makes right, after all.


My bike was stolen this year when I visited Utrecht, in the Netherlands. It wasn't even my bike: it was my sister's folding Birdy. They retail for over €2000 these days, but I assumed that thieves would be put off by the fifteen years of scratches and dents on it. Also by the €135 German lock.

I locked it up next to a bike path, with lots of other bikes. I made sure to fold the handlebar down so it couldn't possibly interfere with passing cyclists. I met my Dutch friend and had wonderful pedalo journey around the city. Utrecht is great, you should visit.

When I got back it was gone. There was a young woman nearby, in tears. Her bike was also gone. My memory's not what it used to be: had I, in fact, left it somewhere else? But I then found what remained of my lock: a cleanly sliced 5cm long section.

It wasn't insured but I thought I'd report it to the police anyway. Always good to have up-to-date crime statistics! And it's unusual enough in terms of model and colour that maybe I'd get it back one day. The police were polite and spoke excellent English. However, a tourist reporting a stolen bike apparently required assistance from a second, and then a third, member of staff. It took over twenty-five minutes of wrangling with computers and ring binders to establish that I needed to have an in-person interview to report the theft. No, none of the three staff were able to do that now. I'd have to book one. When was the next available interview slot? Not until next week, after my departure from the city.

Later that night I was morosely googling "bike crime utrecht". Cheering myself up with bit of confirmation bias. Despite not reading Dutch I was able to figure out from the local government's website that there is a depot to which the authorities remove illegally-parked bikes. Not only that, it has a web interface where you can search for your bike. I do wonder why the police didn't mention this possibility during our lengthy encounter.

My bike was, of course, there. I sheepishly collected it, paying the nominal fee, and failing to dispute the "evidence" that they provide in their computer system (a photo of a sign prohibiting bike parking. I went back to the scene of the crime later; the sign was nowhere near, and was even on the other side of the road).

Moral of the story: use one of the many free municipal bike parks when you're in the Netherlands.


This has the disconcerting effect of making the real HN titles look like they're generated by GPT-3.


Eventually we will get AI based title analysers that simulate the conditions to predict and optimise where your title will land on the front-page listing order.


I think a case could be made that ML is automated growth hacking.


mbasic not working here either. I suspect it's connected to the "Some features are not available" shown on the desktop-browser messages UI. Something to do with complying with European legislation.


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