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http://www.google.com/insights/consumersurveys/how

and

http://aytm.com/

come to mind...

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Great stuff, thanks aditya

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EchoNest used to do this[1] and is open source

1. http://developer.echonest.com/forums/thread/3650

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typo: absorbtion should be absorption

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$149 for Windows 8.1 version and $89 for Linux version, not bad.

via: http://techreport.com/news/27619/intel-compute-stick-is-a-14...

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... and the Linux version will have half the RAM (1GB instead of 2GB) and a fourth the storage (8GB instead of 32GB).

I think I might pass on this.

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Yup. Seems like pointless, instant-gratification consumerism when server boxes are far faster, cheaper and greener. Worse, it's an un-upgradable device to buy and throw away. Anyone that needs more horsepower, it's far simpler to either trade up, use a real server or just use a cloud/VPS similar to AWS.

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"server boxes are far faster, cheaper and greener. Worse, it's an un-upgradable device to buy and throw away."

How many of these devices would you have to buy and throw away to match the environmental material footprint of even one 1U rack-mount server? They're tiny. Orders of magnitude matter.

(Similar effect: However "disposable" USB flash drives may superficially seem, compared to the floppies they replaced they are nothing. And I do not just mean that the USB sticks can hold lots of stuff... I mean that if you pile a normal computer user of the 2015 era's USB sticks in one pile, and a normal computer user of the 1990 era's floppy disks into another pile, the floppies would tower over the entire pile of USB drives and almost certainly have a much larger environmental footprint. I hedge only for the possibility that the nasty flash memory might dominate the floppies manufacturing, but the floppies do irreducibly have an awful lot more plastic in them, so I'm still guessing the floppy pile comfortably "wins".)

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Floppies are plastic and vinyl. Flash drives require an entire foundry worth of heavy metals and exotic compounds. I doubt it is the clear win you think.

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The drive needs electronics as well, consuming possibly as much of heavy metals and exotic compounds. And you need a lot of floppies to be on par with capacity of a flash drive.

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The flash drive is a teeny portion of the entire foundry, though. And plastic is hardly benign to make.

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How many of these sticks, powered hubs and controlling computers would you have to buy to equal one green 1U server? On the order of 64 USB sticks, 15 powered hubs AND one computer... That's 15 cheap bricks and a computer's power supply that have to be made and suck down power versus a quality, high-efficiency switching PSU that is about ~98% efficient. Doing the math on the supply chain sourcing of each component is pointless, because it wouldn't be practical, and at present, it's impossible to source all materials from goods to actual, verified origin (not shady middlemen).

Also, how much power would be lost by all those cheap bricks compared to a single, efficient switching power supply?

It also would be 65 systems to maintain.

Renting a fraction (via cloud/VPS) of a green server (good PUE DCs and LP gear) is far cheaper and greener. But more importantly, waste fewer computing resources.

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How does a cloud VM satisfy the 'intel stick' use-case? Where is the HDMI port?

Also, since you're piling on every possible thing you can to make your case, you should also include the power systems of every networking device between your cloud VM and you.

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What use case? They are already loads of TV tuner cards that are cheaper and exist.

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The stick in question is not a TV tuner card. It is a full-fledged PC.

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It's been too long since I built a PC so I'll take your word on the faster/cheaper argument, but greener? Can you really build a server box that uses less power than a 1-2A USB device?

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>Can you really build a server box that uses less power than a 1-2A USB device?

Not sure, but I think the point was that its "greener" because you can swap out individual parts over time using the same case and ultimately producing less waste. You may also argue that individual components are easier to recycle.

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At scale, compute boxes are rarely upgraded because it's TCO cheaper to invest in newer systems (or CPU, mb, RAM). IOW, it's cheaper to wait and refresh everything, that is unless you're adding RAM, CPUs or disks.

If form factors don't change, reusing the mounting hw, PSUs and enclosures can be doable. Some web shops wait until boxes die entirely before replacement while IT shops lifecycle out all gear (usually everything but racks) in 4-6 years.

These hotdog USB sticks aren't upgradable at all and they're limited to the processing power of 5-10W.

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Compare oranges-to-oranges or it's a straw man: Using an equal fraction of an efficient server is undoubtedly.

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You've missed the point that this isn't about horsepower but about being a "set top box". I can't connect AWS to my television.

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It has USB and microSD slots. This device is clearly not intended for serious computing, but it is more like a general purpose media device. Like a Chromecast/FireTV that is 100% customizable.

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Reminds me of the tail end of netbooks. After MS had resuscitated XP via a restrictive OEM license, and Intel had cooked up the first gen or so of Atom...

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Linux will probably run fine on those specs, remember Windows has a ton of overhead in terms of RAM and storage.

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I'm not really concerned about whether Linux will run 'fine' on less hardware, I'd just want to be able to purchase the higher-end (hardware-wise) version.

I'm not going to buy the high-end version if it requires me to buy the prepackaged Windows license however.

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Windows 8.1 with Bing version is free (as in free beer), you don't have to buy it. It is just pre-installed and can be removed.

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Yeah, its strange that the OS is preinstalled, whereas with the Intel NUC I believe it comes without an OS and you need to do the setup yourself, which is preferable.

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It may be preferable to you, but it's certainly not for the intended audience.

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Windows will run amazing on these and all things considered storage isn't an issue. They have really optimized for ultra small devices and id be willing to bet windows 8.1 on these would be super awesome actually. My daughters tablet with similar specs but only 1gb of ram is smooth as can be.

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This raises an interesting question.

How much memory does Mac OS X Yosemite need?

How much engineering effort is spent on optimization and improving performance, as opposed to changing the look'n'feel and adding consumer-focused features?

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Apple works hard on power efficiency. You don't get high battery life for free. Memory usage may get less attention, but, for example, they do 'swap' to memory by compressing pages (does it help? I wouldn't know. Read http://dfrws.org/2014/proceedings/DFRWS2014-1.pdf)

Edit: oops. That paper isn't evaluating performance, as I thought it would.

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Anyone else have 100% CPU storeaccountd with iBooks offline?

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Looking at the ubuntu system requirements page, they say: "From experience, we all know that it is recommended to have 2048 MiB RAM to properly run a day to day Ubuntu." .

Of course you can run something else, but for a hassle free experience , ubuntu seems like the best choice.

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With Unity you certainly need more RAM but nothing prevents one from installing another wm like xfce, awesome or lxde to save a ton on RAM and run just fine on 1 Gb.

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That's simply not true.

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I'll happily buy the higher-end version and handle the Linux install myself, as long as I can remove the Windows license and get a subsequent refund from Microsoft.

But if thats not possible then I'll just wait until some other manufacturer makes a bad-ass Linux version for the same price, or less ..

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With all likelyhood it comes with "Windows 8.1 with Bing", which means Intel will have paid 0$ to put it on there. There is no refund to get, and the extra cost is supposed to be justified by the extra ram and storage space.

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That is not just crap, but that is actually rather crap.

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I retract my earlier comment, this is cheesy at best Intel. Sad. Still kowtowing to the Gates regime.

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It's dilettante computing without the phallacy of having a shipping product.

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That actually seems expensive for a device without a screen or input devices.

I wish that Chromecast and Apple TV supported an open standard for streaming rather than everyone using their own proprietary standards.

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AFAIK Chromecast uses DLNA underneath (which is mostly RTSP + mDNS discovery?).

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It hardly matters what they use when you need a client certificate to be able to connect.

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Prices are getting low enough that Microsoft could sell people a copy of windows with a desktop computer bundeled in for free.

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Quite expensive, given that you can pick up a cheap Chinese tablet with a screen, HDMI out, micro SD slot etc. for around the same price.

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Also, you don't need another computer to use it.

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This is a good bit smaller than a tablet

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How did you make $40k?

Post says TINhouse was useless and reddit has the lowest conversion rate (but still accounted for 25% of the sales).

Could your talk about the "engaging people on various forums/communities" part and where the majority of that 40k came from?

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Sure, we seem to be popular on forums with people sharing "wtf is up with these shirts" or "would you wear these"? The first comment always seems to be "no." then the rest are positive. Also, a few of those shutupandtakemymoney type places have done posts on us and those have really high conversion rates. Lastly, I use places like FunnyJunk and 9GAG as a place to repost twitter pics. It's my first time on those, so I'm still trying to learn their communities.

Our Kim Jong Il shirt is crushing it, which I didn't expect, and people are sharing it / finding up on Instagram and twitter. I am going to expand and utilize those social media platforms more such as a "4chan designs shirts" board on pinterest. We have virality on our side with this, but I think most B2C companies need something others want to talk about.

We have high conversion off facebook but I don't do anything on it. So, it most be others sharing links and pictures that I can't see. We also have a large "direct" group of sales that I have no information on how they found us.

EDIT: I can't reply as fast as I'd like to due to spam restrictions in place. I didn't use my main account for this post.

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Just looked at TINhouse's twitter and, well, I have no words. I would pay to not be featured with these people...

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4 ways:

1. Work for a US company in the Middle East and transfer over on an L1

2. Apply to US companies and play the H1B lottery

3. Immigrate to or work for a Canadian company (work visa's are easier)

4. Get your Master's

Since you specifically asked about #4, I'll address that. You could see your MS as a glorified work visa but if you go to a top school (Stanford, Caltech, Berkely, CMU, etc.) you're getting a lot more intangible benefits as your career progresses. The network you build and the fact that your degree is from a top school are going to look fantastic on your resume and will qualify you for much better jobs. The credential still makes a difference for certain kinds of gigs.

Of course, if you start your own startup that credential is kinda useless but the network will still help.

So, my advice would be to get into a top school, if you're going to go the #4 route (especially if you can pay your way through, it's much easier) and if not, it's still not a bad way to come work in the US. There are 20k extra H1B visa's for MS degree holders which helps with the lottery as well.

Disclaimer: I came to the US to get my Master's 10 years ago and stayed.

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Interestingly, AMZN bought Kiva and will deploy 10,000 robots soon. Very cool video here: http://money.cnn.com/2014/05/22/technology/amazon-robots/

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I work at Kiva Systems as a software engineer, located north of Boston. We do a lot of work with robotics and Amazon scale web service development and we are hiring. Check it out at: http://www.kivasystems.com/careers-at-kiva/

Happy to talk about it further. Email me at pestrada AT kivasystems.com

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I'd be surprised if these aren't already deployed. I visited a logistics trade fair in Stuttgart and was impressed with the concept. That said, it will work for things in the "library" aka small goods, but let's see how they scale these up to deal with pallet sized goods. I've got no doubt they will, though developing these machines will not be cheap.

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Do you have another source for that video? It keeps playing the ad twice and then loading an unrelated video.

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Found this on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWsMdN7HMuA

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I was hoping the one aditya linked was newer as the article was written this year. Did they reuse that old video or is there indeed new footage?

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Not the same video, this has more real world footage...

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How do I know what quality stream I'm getting?

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Good thing mega.co.nz gives you 50GB for free. :-)

Also, BitTorrent was built for this, as mentioned elsewhere...

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Wild theory: the bezel has 4 sensors - including the earpiece, FaceTime camera, ambient light sensor, and proximity sensor[1]

They already have a patent to put the proximity/light sensor in the display, now they're removing the earpiece. If they get rid of the camera, they won't need a bezel. Boom?

[1] http://www.macrumors.com/2014/06/05/solar-cell-ambient-light...

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