> Do you plan to expand to other things that SGI produced? Publications? Swag?
I mean I wanna be able to document everything that I can that is within scope. As I told another user, I gotta have a solid "bread" around the "sandwich" so to speak.
SGI's trademarks are gone, but there's so many Chinese companies now selling that swag it's hard. I do got some mouse pads I made if you're in the US:
I wish I could get excited, but several design choices and aspects of the status quo we are facing have me worried:
It's already a basically bleeding edge C++. Why is it so much to ask for developers to use a more mature and established iteration so I don't need a brand new compiler?
What role is it gonna actually fill? It's not efficient enough to penetrate into the niche of Dillo or Netsurf. It's nowhere near as up to date on standards as Webkit, Goanna, Blink and Servo engines.
The swift move means LLVM-only. Yay. \s
What is supposed to sell this to normal users? Brave may be controversial, but its messaging is on point. Pale moon purging Mr. Tobin basically solved 99% of their brand issues. Vivaldi is what Opera used to be.
Google's dominance through Chromium/Chrome appears commanding. Between Pale Moon getting censored from Cloudflare sites, to Firefox becoming a controlled opposition, to Microsoft JOINING THEM. I'm sorry, but I have trouble being optimistic.
That said, I begrudgingly am ok with it. I wish they did things different.
I agree with your concerns in general but starting a project like this with a bleeding edge language version does make sense - by the time the code is ready to be used those language versions will be old even esoteric systems will have a compiler that supports them.
Swift is more of a concern no (only) because of the LLVM dependency but also because of the Apple dependency and no proven track record of being a good cross-platform foundation.
> It's already a basically bleeding edge C++. Why is it so much to ask for developers to use a more mature and established iteration so I don't need a brand new compiler?
Because C++ got better and better in recent versions?
You are essentially asking to forego large amounts of improvements that allow for writing more maintainable code, just because you are too lazy to install a compiler that has been released 1 year and 10 months ago (in the case of GCC 13) or 1 year and 5 months (in the case of Clang 17).
Half right. Are you talking about Ian? that happened on one transaction.
Considering how tight knit our community is... I prefer to err on the side of respect, even if I disagree with some people's practices.
There's an SGUG admin I disagree with on this, but we get along anyways because we're both adults. I won't pretend I've been perfect, but quitting the booze in the quantity I was doing helped a bunch
I obtain copyright permission of all original images before uploading and give people clear contacts to do it. I refuse to install extensions that could clobber the setup (many aren't compatible with postgres). I also make an attempt to contact rightsholders. the only stuff I don't have permission for is a few system image placeholders and the logos of companies. The SGI trademarks are basically gone though, HPE ain't using them.
> If you can find ways to collect and preserve copies of the software, that can be big value. Every version and variation of a title has sometimes been important after the fact. Maybe use archive.org for historical archiving of software with unclear licensing status, and link to it from your wiki, with your wiki providing the background text and organizing that isn't archive.org's strong suit. (I'm not talking about piracy, but just trying to ensure that any copy at all survives, which had been a real problem on some other platforms of this era. Also, it's easier to get a company to say that such-and-such software from a company three acquisitions ago is OK for people to run on vintage boxes and in emulators and museums, than to ask them to find and provide a working copy, which they usually cannot.)
Over at IRIXNet we do have some files and such preserving what's not likely to get us in trouble, but I choose to not deal with copyrighted works on tech-pubs (which unlike IRIXNet is my pet project, not a part of IRIXNet)
Well, for me, it's just not feasible for me to take the gambles archive.org and others do. I am a professional locksmith in IRL, and "piracy" could lead me to losing my livelihood as my license could be revoked. I also have only so many hours in a day to keep stuff running. You think I need more mailboxes to be checked etc?
Plus, nowadays, dmca rightsholders will bypass you, going straight to the host provider who will lock you down for gods know how long until someone gets back to you.
I am not like Peter Plank, who ran nekochan.net. I have professional infrastructure,paid developers and a few sysadmins who help me run it all. It costs me nearly a grand a year to keep the lights on.
Is it worth the risk? Honestly, it's not! The only things I host are IRIX install media, and HPE moreorless said informally/noncommittally, "don't sell it and we're not gonna care!"
Thank you. Yeah, I could see why collaboration with archive.org would be extra work.
And also that you don't want any legal headache splashing back, such as if they get into a big copyright dispute (which, unfortunately, they have, in recent history).
If you don't tell people where, how are we gonna fix it? I found ONE broken image. one. It took me hours to find it. Please don't just vaguely tell me one image somewhere is broken. Please be specific next time!
That language isn’t necessary, for me the site has always loaded with no images so i thought it was obvious, apologies if that’s not what you or others have seen.
Well that's a "let's get details to replicate issue" Level problem. Clearly, images are supposed to load. Give me details to chew on. I mean, if you're on HN, you know better than to say "It's broken" level of detail.
If we can get an FPGA core of the Indy's XL/24 board and helper chips, you can buy a cheap pack of R5ks on alibaba last I checked and probably make a smol sgi board
I mean I wanna be able to document everything that I can that is within scope. As I told another user, I gotta have a solid "bread" around the "sandwich" so to speak.
SGI's trademarks are gone, but there's so many Chinese companies now selling that swag it's hard. I do got some mouse pads I made if you're in the US:
https://irixnet-sales.square.site
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