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> Postgres 17.0 has been out for a bit

From the same blog:

> Sep 26, 2024 - Postgres 17 is Now Available

3 weeks....for a new major release...and we are asking ourselves why people haven't updated?


Yeah, upgrading to PostgreSQL 17 now would be weird unless you have some very specific feature you need in it and spent resources testing your application on the betas and rcs.


My team has upgraded several dozen databases from 16.x to 17.3. Went entirely smoothly. The thing is that we're running on a process of upgrading all dependencies every Friday, and then promoting to prod on Monday unless there are specific issues, so our definition of "would be weird" is the reverse from what you say.

(Granted, we have rather small DBs and simple applications where ON UPDATE SKIP LOCKED is about the most fancy feature we use.)


Be careful if you use streaming replication - secondary replica leaks memory on 17.0 (16.4 is fine)


17.3? That doesn't exist (yet).


Oh sorry, I went from memory and mixed up the numbers in "16.3 -> 17.0".


We/Australia has a massive focus on early detection of skin cancer due to our overly sunny weather. It's possibly that we detect more cancer and treat it earlier thus the better outcomes?


I would love to see those cancer stats without the skin cancer stats.


> Ozempic has entered the chat.


This honestly feels like the kind of thing where 20 years from now we'll be more aware of the side effects and people will shake heads about how stupid "we" were today.

If this is going to be an exception, it'd be truly interesting.


There are already a bunch of studies showing that the ozempic causes massive muscle loss and lessens bone density. And before anyone remarks "just do resistance training", I doubt the people that take the easy solution will do it in conjunction.


Do they cause it in excess of normal weight loss in the same time period? I'm asking because regular weight loss that's quick will have both of these effects too.


> Do they cause it in excess of normal weight loss in the same time period?

I think you mean diet and exercise when you say 'normal'. Its not possible to have that much 'normal weight loss' in the 'same period'.


Correct me if I'm wrong but Ozempic doesn't cause you to lose weight, instead it controls your appetite. It's not something like DNP, right?

'Normal weight loss' here refers to eating the same amount of calories without taking Ozempic. You should lose weight at the same speed as with Ozempic, because it's the calories that matter when it comes to fat loss.


Weight loss always comes with some muscle loss and bone density loss, because the structure now supports less weight than before, and our bodies dislike to maintain muscle apparatus beyond what is necessary.

Unless Ozempic causes significantly more muscle loss than other ways of losing weight, that news isn't really news.


Conversely, this is also why the strongest powerlifters are huge heavy guys. They aren't necessarily healthy. But they are strong.


Ozempic doesn't cause that, losing weight via diet does. Weight Watchers moms get the same thing.

The only people who don't are people who lose weight through resistance training. Which is a small minority - because we have a HUGE diet culture!


I cannot possibly even imagine how this could be the case, considering just how deadly and miserable obesity is. I don't see how we can hypothetically "solve" obesity and then go back to an obese population because the drug makes you nauseous or something. And that's not even considering the, what I can only assume to be, trillions of dollars of healthcare cost savings over time.


Its a transfer of wealth from the fast food conglomerates to Novo Nordisk. They won't take this lying down. Ozempic resistant foods are coming.


How can I financially support you?


Not sure many VC's are actually spending money to get those credits versus being given them for free as a promotional tool.


Advertisement.


So many words and FUD...with the bottom line being...

> Here's my take: The Account ID is useless and not a direct weakness.


I see a tiny scrollbar on an article starting with "Let’s dive into a highly debated topic"...

I figured it must be AI-generated slop, and closed the window.


Agree, obscurity is mostly not good to rely on, it allows you to congratulate yourself about defense in depth and what not but it’s a bit security theatre


You are trolling. Australian Government revenue was AU$755.8 billion in 2023, net assets of AU$790 billion and a budget surplus of AU$18 billion in 2023/24.


Don't let perfection get in the way of done.


A solution working in 90% of the cases is not bad. Especially if this is reasonably easy. Then progressively you can figure it out for the remaining % as the technological solutions progressively get more difficult to implement.


Embrace, extend, extinguish. Classic Microsoft-esq play from Apple.


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