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But it was not classified and they had done the talk at a different conference. According to the article they got a message an hour earlier about not open sourcing it, which they did not do it looks like.


On the spot, At defcon, 30k people. Anyone at Salesforce wanna talk about what's going on? Make a throwaway, use opsec. What are your opinions on this? What is your opinion of Jim as your leader?


Throwaway for obvious reasons.

Incredibly bad leader. Ask away.


No questions from me, but I've met Josh and the rest of the redteam. I hope they are doing well. Lots of good folks in salesforce security =)


Okay, umm... Why is he an incredibly bad leader?


what are this "leader"'s justifications for preventing the talks and for preventing the open sourcing of this software? Is it liability or competitive advantage based?


Were there any consequences for the leader? If not, it sounds like those above him are just as bad.


How do we even know you work there?


why are you still there?


They got fired right after the talk, looks like the person on the other end took it too seriously.


Looks like the executive who messaged them 30 mins before took it personally that they ended up presenting even though he asked them not to so he fired them. Otherwise it makes no sense to fire people right after they finish their talk, unless of course you got an ego to show.

Either way Salesforce really fucked up here.


Right. Even if he legitimately felt the engineers were out of line in some way -- firing them at a public conference (and not just any conference - but that industry's leading annual conference) is just dumb.


I guess. It's just so horrendously counterproductive, even for Salesforce, if it really was was it's being reported as.


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