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I'm wondering why these aren't extensions rather than baked in. Extensions would be consistent with the historical development mantra of pi.

Are you referring to GitHub Copilot? I believe this thread is referring to Windows Copilot, such as the AI feature embedded into every Office progam, which is not the same experience.

No, good ol' bog-standard Enterprise M365 Copilot. The one with the worst chat interface in history. That one.

I don't think many people are aware of just how much it can do; it's certainly not advertised, and very likely not intended.


could you give some examples?

Try sending this prompt to "GPT 5.6 Think Deeper" in the interface:

Provide me with optimised python code to perform a prime number search. Test the code and report on performance. Benchmark different search solutions. Provide the code in a downloadable zip archive.

A silly toy example, but it should help give a hint of what's possible.


Yes, because it's _only_ "modern fintech" that are susceptible to social engineering, right?

Oh.. https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/04/asia/deepfake-cfo-scam-ho...


Just for anecdata: I'm using simplelogin to alias my emails and I can see there is a 20ish minute window between when Simplelogin receives an email, to when it finally shows up in my Proton inbox. Normally it's an inconsequential delay.

Not sure if that indicates how much of a backlog of emails Proton has because of this outage, or if the DR infra is just that much slower?


The point though, is that they package 3rd party applications and libraries.

If they ban AI, they won't stop packaging apps and libraries from parties that do use AI. They wouldn't even know who does or doesn't.


Sure, this is (mostly) about direct contributions to Debian.

Proposal C does discourage use more broadly but acknowledges that many upstreams take a different view and that it would be impractical to ban them from using it.


I have very little in my agents.md file wrt style, except for:

> Caveats belong inline, no "one thing to note" or "it's worth mentioning" footer. If it is worth raising or calling out, do so where it is most relevant and not as a foot note.

Opus 5 has a god awful habit of always doing a Columbo on every single response, and it is such a jarring read that it amps my cognitive burden having to back-read everything.


That's the growth hacking at play.


Soon: "The 7 weird tricks about your Pull Request WEB-1725 that THEY don't want you to know!"


Well, the Ubuntu logo has suddenly clicked. How did I not see it before?!


Thanks for your comment, otherwise it still would not have clicked for me ..


Makes sense with the whole "Ubuntu is sometimes translated as "I am because we are" thing as well


The (many) interior designers we consulted before renovating our house used A/VR to show us what those changes could look like. The AR experience was the most surreal and useful, though.


> I do not understand why anyone else would go along with this.

Aspirations.


Which have ignorance as their root cause. Ignorance of the type of people that become ultra wealthy, and ignorance of the odds of becoming one of them.

We should “listen” to these people with the same attitude as we do”listen” to gas station lottery addicts, instead we give them WAY too much credibility.


I don't buy that. You can't convince me someone shopping at Dollar General has aspirations of becoming Elon-Musk-wealthy.


"That guy has lots of money so he must be successful, clever, and probably correct, so I'm going to support them" is still an aspiration - and you probably should realise that there are people in dollar stores that think "One day, that could be me."


"temporarily embarrassed millionaires"


$165k won't get you far on salaried engineers. There's every chance that 1 engineer, assuming Anthropic employs them, is on $500k or more. Assuming average of $336k in that pool of 50 engineers, then for 11 days for 50 engineers you've spent $710k[0].

Salary info: https://www.levels.fyi/companies/anthropic/salaries/software...

[0]The maths I used (posting because I'm tired and prone to mistakes):

    $336,000 / 260 (working days of the year) = ~$1,292.
    $1,292 * 11 * 50 = ~$710,769


You don't need top engineers to port a program from one language to the other. Outsource it to India.

Of course, then you can also ask, could it have been done with a cheaper model. Probably yes. But then you wouldn't get free marketing.


I agree you probably don't need top-dollar bay-area engineers for this, but hardcore outsourcing to a LCOL probably isnt going to work either due to novelty and generally being setup to do the more rote thing (generalizing a ton here obvi). This feels like something in the middle.


Outsourcing to India would actually be the disaster the naysayers were saying this would be.


Have you seen the "rewrite by outsourcing to India" thing work?


What a weird thing to say. The phrase “outsourcing to India” being used as shorthand for “you don’t need top engineers.” The nationality stereotypes are mean and degrading.


And at a macro level, often found to be accurate due to how the businesses in India operate. Poll the west's engineers: you'll find that engineering from India is not currently viewed very favorably, in general.

There are excellent engineers in India, but the system they operate in unfortunately doesn't allow them to shine.


That's fair, I shouldn't have commented that. I don't like the national stereotypes at all - I see "outsource to India" as being more about less expensive engineers than not needing "top engineers".

That said, I don't think "rewrite from one language to another" with inexpensive engineers is a pattern that works. Happy to be proven wrong.


Many of the large enterprises we work for did move software engineering work from HCOL locations in Europe or the US to India, often with disastrous results.

On Teams, channels related to AI are flooded with daily support requests from supposed engineers from India who clearly are not competent enough to set up GitHub Copilot or properly report issues they encounter during the setup.

And don't get me started on the shared libraries some teams located in India work on. If the library I need to use is full of obvious bugs where I wonder how any competent engineer could have shipped this to production, and then I see that the work has been moved to India, how am I supposed to feel about this?

Do we really need to sugarcoat this?


India has amazing software engineers and less competent ones.

USA has amazing software engineers and less competent ones.

Europe has amazing software engineers and less competent ones.

etc

You get what you pay for, pay top end in India and they will be same as top end in Bay Area (and many in Bay Area/USA are migrants...)


"weird" is a euphemism.


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