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yep. yep.


"Of the several articles decrying the MVP...", not sure that's what's going on here.


It just seems like, over the past week or so, there have been multiple articles touching on this topic, where the article itself - or a number of the comments - seem to disparage the idea of MVPs. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, it's just something I seem to have noticed as a pattern recently.


As time goes on The Lean Startup thing is starting to look a lot like the lifecycle Agile went through doesn't it?

- A good idea comes along that makes a lot of sense

- Starts to gain traction

- Some people get a bit too religious about it which annoys some other people.

- Some do it well and lots do it badly

- The annoyed people try use the examples of it done badly to make generalisations about it, smear its name and generally miss the point entirely.

- on and on we go


Good point. :-)


Agreed.


Preach! ...I would add that there's a great deal of emotional complexity involved in great product design, and its easier said than done to determine correctly what is "viable" from what isn't for an initial launch product - even if its well tested (while I understand @alexturnbull isn't saying testing is bad, nor is he saying MVPs are inherently inappropriate or obsolete). That said, many of these "viable" touch-points are often intangibles - not discrete interactions, features or functional benefits, and this is something that can be really costly to get right. Hard to beef with the argument he's making specific to competitive markets. Its absolutely costly to enter competitive markets... Many product authors continue to miss the mark for what is MVP because these same "mission critical products" are getting more and more sophisticated, and consumer expectations are being raised all the time.


I couldn't reproduce...looks fine over here.


Me either...anyone else experiencing this?


Dang. Preach!


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