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why do you believe that humanity is the habitat for ai and not the other way around?


you either know how to sell or you don't

in my experience someone who programs usually can't sell

hire a marketing expert from your industry


look at the difference in mean annual temperature between this year and the year in which the temperature observations began...

you'll be surprised at the results


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_England_temperature

Its gone up. Not sure what was supposed to be surprising about this.


conclusions... the conclusions of information processing can be surprising

. you can see how many degrees it has risen in the time we've been watching

.. planet earth is warming now coming out of another ice age and this is a normal phenomenon that cannot be influenced

can you formulate an understandable definition of what the media calls 'global warming' based on this?


You're a little confused here.

"Ice Age" is when there's ice on the planet .. the planet is in an ice age and has been for a long long time - a bit longer than humans have existed in modern form.

    The Quaternary glaciation, also known as the Pleistocene glaciation, is an alternating series of glacial and interglacial periods during the Quaternary period that began 2.58 Ma (million years ago) and is ongoing.
~ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_glaciation

In terms of the glacial cycle the planet was due to begin cooling and enter a period of greater glaciaton than currently existed in, say, the 1880's.

"Was due" but didn't happen is key, and the reason for that is the increase in insulation like a few extra blankets thrown on the bed by human activity - the clearly recorded and well sourced increase in CO2 levels that much has been written about.

If you're looking for detail and definitions then I'd suggest looking through the IPCC report(s) or start with something foundational such as Syukuro Manabe's 1967 classic Thermal Equilibrium of the Atmosphere with a Given Distribution of Relative Humidity

https://journals.ametsoc.org/view/journals/atsc/24/3/1520-04...


nope

an ice age consists of alternating paired epochs 'glacial - interglacial'

an ice age is when things are bad cold sea level drops and icing occurs

interglacial is the opposite bright warm sea level is high

within these epochs periods of cooling and warming are also distinguished but on a smaller scale

the end of the last glacial epoch began about 20.000 years ago

we are now living in an interglacial epoch that began 11.700 years ago

and one example of a slight cooling in our generally warm times was the Little Ice Age which lasted from the fourteenth to the middle of the nineteenth century

after that global warming began intensified by anthropogenic impact

p.s.

point: saying that 'global warming' is caused by human activity is like saying 'coffee with milk' is just 'milk'


> nope

There are several uses of the term "ice age".

> an ice age consists of alternating paired epochs 'glacial - interglacial'

Yes. This is the correct geological time scale usage - a period when there is ice on the earth and a period that often includes glacial cycling - as I said above.

> an ice age is when things are bad cold sea level drops and icing occurs

?? define "bad cold" .. and yes, again an ice age is when there is ice on the earth, whether ice strictly limited to the poles or ice that almost reaches the equator - these are both examples of ice on the earth that occurs during an ice age.

> we are now living in an interglacial epoch that began 11.700 years ago

Yes - and one that was due to end with a greater cooling and more glaciers - this is not what you claimed in your comment above. Instead of this current interglacial period coming to an end it will now be extended with warmer periods caused by the extra insulation added by human activity in the last century.

This is what is called AGW .. that specific component of additional trapped radiant heat energy caused by human added insulation to the atmosphere.

This is readily tracked in various atmospheric fas libraries that have existed since the early Cold War .. and by other proxy means, not to mention looking at the by product of a centuries worth of FF extraction by products or with more recent sat constellations that track gases.

Study more, learn more, work harder to sound less ignorant.

The "Little Ice Age" was more localised to European cells than truly global and it's something bandied about in denier blogs that never truly get into the actual larger picture and global thermodynamics.


Would you care to share your results with the rest of us, instead of making each of us go look?

See, you only have to write your post once. But it's read multiple times. So it's more efficient (and more polite) for the author to do the homework, rather than for the readers to do it.


I'd be more surprised if they measured the same thing.


it's not clear what the user has to pay for...

does this search engine have its own index or what?

in principle you can make money on a paid search engine but not with this model of services offered to users


FWIW as a counterpoint, I’ve been giving them money for 2 years now and every cent has been worth it a hundred times over. A shame that effective search is now a luxury item, but it is what it is.


i want to understand the meaning you put into the term "luxury search" in relation to this project

if this search engine does not have its own index then the only mechanism it can use is to filter the search results of other search engines

this means that this search engine cannot give you more information than is contained in the index of the donor search engines

what exactly are you paying for?


the point is that agi may already exist and work with you and your environment

you just won't notice the existence of agi

there will be no press coverage of agi

the technology will just be exploited by those who have the technology


because chat gpt is a linguistic model

linguistic models are based on images of objects and phenomena, not on the physical properties of those objects and phenomena

there's practical knowledge and there's theoretical knowledge

practical knowledge can be used as technology but theoretical knowledge cannot

by and large, chat gpt is a generator of 'idle chatter' that people are used to in their communication and often in their thinking


This is actually well said. One of the issues we had to overcome with Zenode was the fact that people reference the same information in completely different ways. For example, "what's the nominal power draw" and "what's the typical power output" are the same query, but to an LLM, these are different.

We had to do a ton of work to get the tool to consistently return the same value (and still sometimes it shits the bed).

So yeah, even light technical jargon can confuse the heck out of an LLM, which is why that wasn't the only tool that's necessary to build this.

Try us out, would be curious to get your feedback! www.zenode.ai


thanks for the link, that's interesting

can your search template be used to search for any strictly catologized things or is the template strictly tied to searching for electronic components?

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i ask this because it occurred to me that it might be possible to make a universal cataloger of physical things and phenomena for linguistic ai, which would make it possible to... you know

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in other words, you can create a 'real ai' from this publicly available ai linguistic model ;)


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