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Why it feels like "this year will be the year of Linux desktop" didn't sound absurd enough for you so you went and upgraded the idea to "HL3 will be a Linux exclusive."


They can steal Workspaces from Vivaldi.

Or they can steal vertical tabs from Vivaldi.

Or they can steal the built-in RSS client form Vivaldi.

Or they can steal the ability to save sessions from Vivaldi.

Or they can steal the built-in notes from Vivaldi.

Or they can steal the tab stacking from Vivaldi.

Or they can steal the profile switching from Vivaldi.

Honest question. What could Vivaldi "steal" from Firefox?


Containers.

Firefox has this ability to separate cookies etc into different partitions, and users can make use of this feature by opening tabs in different containers. Many times when I use profiles in other browsers what I really want is container tabs.

That combined with sideberry makes Firefox the superior one when I was checking if Vivaldi was worth switching to.


Containers seemed great to me at first but eventually they actually got in my way just as profiles do.

I just ended up with mounds of rules about what to open in the same container vs not, what urls to force in a given container, etc.

I still want to like them, but TBH, I don't miss them in Vivaldi.

Totally willing to accept I was doing containers wrong, I guess, but in that case, I don't know what "right" would've looked like.


That was also my story and I abandoned containers that time. But it turns out to be more about bad default UI.

The game changer is Sideberry. It makes manually managed container tabs almost effortless. Instead of messing with auto rules, you would:

- Set default containers for each pane;

- Use shortcuts to open new sibling/child tab in the same container;

- Save/restore tabs as bookmarks keeping their containers.

It’s still not perfect UI, but in reality covers all the use cases where I’d reach for a container.

It’s just so much peaceful to know that I won’t accidentally tie anything to the google account, while still have gmail open in that cyan backgrounded tab just a ctrl-tab away.


So I'd need an extension from my extension? :)

Maybe I can go back to Zen just to get more layers out of my browser sammich.


> Honest question. What could Vivaldi "steal" from Firefox?

Not being so weirdly buggy on Windows. It's my main browser but man does it have odd behaviors that need restarts occasionally.


> Or they can steal vertical tabs from Vivaldi.

Firefox already has vertical tabs and they work great.

> Or they can steal the profile switching from Vivaldi.

I'm pretty sure that Firefox has profile switching in some capacity, although I don't personally use it and can't vouch for it.

As for the rest of these, I agree completely. Firefox has too many wacky AI experiments and not enough normal browser features.


>Perhaps if they implement this functionality conveniently, more average users will use Firefox.

I've tried Firefox before. I prefer Vivaldi, because it provides more convenience.

I can't actually tell you what Firefox does or where all that money is going to. It looks exactly like Chrome with negligible changes.

The critical problem, it seems, is that Firefox thinks people care about "privacy" only to the extent of being shown personalized ads. Literally nothing else matters. This feels to me like a recurring issue in technology, where an issue that users may have doesn't exist in the way they interact with the world, but only as a specific definition that can be measured or that be analyzed from a compliance perspective.

I have multiple profiles in Chrome and Vivaldi that let me switch between professional accounts and private accounts. That sounds like privacy to me, and I'd wager that for most people on the planet this is far more useful than the ability to avoid being shown ads for a thing you have already bought just because of tracking cookies. Why Firefox doesn't have this feature?

Vivaldi lets me subscribe to websites via RSS so I don't need to create an account to subscribe to things. That sounds like privacy to me. And I even have notes built into the browser. I don't use these today, but I used to use them when Vivaldi was called Opera. Firefox seems to have neither of these features. Again, I feel the need to ask, what features does Firefox actually have?

Maybe this is a "hot take" for Firefox developers, but if you want people to use your web browser maybe you should try offering functionality that other browsers don't offer? Yes, you can run some extensions that don't work on Chrome anymore, but that's not even a functionality of the browser. That is third-party. It quite literally depends on third-party developers bothering to develop extensions for a web browser that has a 2% market when they could instead use that time to develop extensions for Chrome or even Vivaldi.

If the only reason you want me to use Firefox is so that I don't use Chrome, that just doesn't feel very compelling.


What does "jeetcoded" mean?


A racist play on vibecoding with the popular ethnic slur "pajeet." Thus the cowering behind a fresh account.


Thanks, but now I wish I hadn't asked. :(


That's very interesting!

Splitters make more sense to me since different things should be categorized differently.

However, I believe a major problem in modern computing is when the splitter becomes an "abstraction-splitter."

For example, take the mouse. The mouse is used to control the mouse cursor, and that's very easy to understand. But we also have other devices that can control the mouse cursor, such as the stylus and touchscreen devices.

A lumper would just say that all these types of devices are "mouses" since they behave the same way mouses do, while a splitter would come up with some stupid term like "pointing devices" and then further split it into "precise pointing devices" and "coarse pointing devices" ensuring that nobody has absolutely no idea what they are talking about.

As modern hardware and software keeps getting built on piles and piles of abstractions, I feel this problem keeps getting worse.


Doesn't it make sense to use words that mean what you're using them to mean?

By your logic I could use the term "apple" to describe apples, oranges, limes, and all other fruit because they all behave in much the same ways that apples do. But that's silly because there are differences between apples and oranges [citation needed]. If you want to describe both apples and oranges, the word for that is "fruit", not "apple".

Using a touchscreen is less precise than using a mouse. If the user is using a touchscreen, buttons need to be bigger to accommodate for the user's lack of input precision. So doesn't it make sense to distinguish between mice and touchscreens? If all you care about is "thing that acts like a mouse", the word for that is "pointing device", not "mouse".


The point is that it's simpler to understand what something is by analogy (a touchscreen is a mouse) than by abstraction (a mouse is a pointing device; a touchscreen is also a pointing device), since you need a third, abstracting concept to do the latter.


I don't know what virtue signaling means. I think you mean they just did it out of spite.


Refusing to pay a ransom and instead giving the money to the "ennemies" of the attackers isn't "virtue signaling" (as someone already commented: it's a "fuck you" to the attackers).

In french we call that a "pied de nez". "Turning the table" / "Poetic justice" / "Adding insult to injury" would all be more correct than "virtue signalling".

If there was no attacker and the company gave half a mil out of nowhere to a security company (or a charity) and boasted publicly about it, that would be virtue signalling.

But refusing to pay the ransom and giving the exact same amount to security researchers is just a big, giant, middle finger.

And a middle finger ain't no virtue signalling.


If they wanted to meaningfully give a middle finger to the attackers they’d be spending the money lobbying for a ransomware payments ban, not throwing away money by giving it to universities that have a plenty of money and will probably do absolutely nothing to reduce ransomware attacks in the foreseeable future.


This kind of thing is what makes me trust Valve.


It's more like a torrent tracker telling users that a newspaper wants to know what people are torrenting because they "claim" people are torrenting the newspaper, but investigating this would be an invasion of privacy of the users of the torrent tracker.

This isn't even a hyperbole. It's literally the same thing.


No, it's not. OpenAI is a commercial enterprise selling the stolen data.


1. That sounds useful.

2. That sounds useful.

3. That sounds useful.

4. That sounds useful.

5. That sounds useful.

Are these supposed to be examples of things that shouldn't be found out about? This has to be the worst pro-privacy argument I've ever seen on the internet. "Privacy is good because they will find out about our crimes"


>They claim they might find examples of you using ChatGPT to try to get around their paywall.

Is this a joke? We all know people do this. There is no "might" in it. They WILL find it.

OpenAI is trying to make it look like this is a breach of user's privacy, when the reality is that it's operating like a pirate website and if it were investigated that would become proven.


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