On: Why Did Symbolics Fail? (2009)

[arethuza]

I think that's a bit harsh - I actually moved from mostly doing Common Lisp development (on DEC Alpha workstations) to Java development in early '95 and I really liked Java back then - I was as passionate about it as people are today about Go/CoffeeScript/Haskell. Java, at least at the start, really was something fresh and good.

Sure it became a horrible bloated mess - but isn't that the doom that faces all succesful software eventually?

[pjmlp → arethuza]

Same here, I remember how fresh it felt by bringing GC to the masses and providing a more consistent experience across platforms than C or C++ were capable of, with their compiler specific behaviours, extensions and catching up with the ongoing standardization efforts.

[SixSigma → pjmlp]

Sorry but it was Visual Basic that brought GC to the masses.

[zeckalpha → arethuza]

That's why "Haskell avoids success at all costs".

[bayesianhorse → zeckalpha]

And it seems to be very good at this!

[eru → bayesianhorse]

Not good enough. I use it at a bank.