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99.99% of the impact of 9/11 was due to the reaction, not the initial action.

Using the vast impact of 9/11 as an argument for further reaction is getting everything backwards.

We would have been vastly better off following 9/11 if the government had gone with a "keep calm and carry on" mentality rather than the "everybody panic and start invading things" reaction they actually had.

Terrorism is like a bee sting, and our reaction to terror attacks in the US is like an allergic reaction. The difference is that the US has control over its own immune system, and could choose not to be allergic if it wished.

That "political damage" is almost all caused by the government, and can't be treated like an independent entity. The excessive impact of terrorism cannot be used to argue that the government needs to pay attention to terrorism, because it is that paying attention which causes the excessive impact in the first place.




certainly if politicians felt it was feasible to allow terrorist attacks to occur without mass hysteria resulting, they'd be doing that? Perhaps if all the media in the country were state run, and the government simply suppressed reporting of incidents like that in Boston, they'd be able to contain the hysteria. But as it stands, we have a free press, and on 9/11 as well as in Boston, the government did absolutely nothing in the immediate sense to cause the resulting hysteria; the 24/7 media did that all by themselves. The government's overreaction to all of it was only after the populace collectively freaked out (which you can argue, they could have downplayed, but again the government is extremely politically reactive - which is likely better than them not giving a shit about political opinion); this because they were informed by the media, which itself is an institution resulting from what the populace wants, as the media is a for-profit, market driven entity.


Why would politicians want to prevent the hysteria that follows a terrorist attack? It harms the country, but it benefits them enormously, allowing them to expand their powers, and boosts their popularity and chances of reelection. The Bush administration, for example, managed to leverage 9/11 into support for the invasion of Iraq, something they had wanted to do since long before, but would have had a hard time selling otherwise. They then rode the wave of hysteria to reelection despite the fact that Iraq had gone fairly disastrously for them.

The government's overreaction was after the populace had freaked out, that is true, but silence can be damning as well. Silence lets hysteria breed. If the President had gone live on national television with a "keep calm and carry on" message, I believe it would have helped a lot. Instead, the government treated it as an existential threat, invoking the NATO charter, declaring a "war on terror", etc. None of this was necessary, and it was all highly damaging, although not to the people in power.


> but it benefits them enormously, allowing them to expand their powers,

yeah, I know, my personal opinion is that Cheney definitely did that; invading a country that had nothing to do with terrorism was evidence of that. I don't see this as Obama's motive though, I think he just wants there to be no terrorist attacks under his watch so that he doesn't sustain more political losses on that front alone (look how much flak he took for benghazi). If there was not such a huge political price for terrorism, I get the impression it would be easier for him to reign in the NSA/FBI. But I can't prove any of this, I'm a dem so I'm biased, etc.


I don't know if I agree with you about Obama, although it's certainly a possibility. Even if we grant that, though, the government isn't one person, and the political losses you mention would come from Congress. The Bush administration had Congress eating out of their hand, but Obama very much does not. And no, sadly, I have no idea how to stop Congress from being a bunch of jerks.


> and on 9/11 as well as in Boston, the government did absolutely nothing in the immediate sense to cause the resulting hysteria

I don't recall hysteria in Boston. There was more hysteria over the Moonites than bombings. But I don't think anyone has the bar so low to say that it's all good as long as gov't doesn't create the hysteria. The gov't should be able to dampen hysteria rather than swing it higher.


I'd say that attempting to shut down the entire city while they searched for the surviving bomber would qualify as hysteria.


Was there anyone hysterical over that? They prevented him from easily fleeing. I mean they had a dead police officer and a shootout where multiple very loud bombs went off.


Worse crimes happen with some frequency yet the response is never nearly that large. Boston is the only time I have ever heard of an entire major American city being shut down on order to chase a single criminal. His crime was not exceptional, aside from the "terrorism" angle. Such a massive overreaction is hysteria.


Worse crimes than injuring 246 people and killing 5? The only reason it might not be "exception" is the number of heroes that prevented victims from bleeding out. Without immediate aid, nearly everyone that lost a limb would be on the deceased list.


> The difference is that the US has control over its own immune system, and could choose not to be allergic if it wished.

Nope. Democracies are constrained to the strategic analysis ability of the average voter. Absent a radical eugenics campaign, the average voter will continue to cast superficial, uninformed votes. Democracies die because they vote for their own destruction.

P.S. If the people had voted in a rational nuclear power plan, the Middle East would be just another backwater. The bin Laden clan would be just another bunch of towelheads squabbling over camels.


I was going to write up an attempt at some sort of cogent reply until I got to that "towelheads" bit.




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