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To be fair, Dziuba's criticisms of startups have always been on technical and design points. Here, Arrington is attacking the personal choices Dziuba's made, which seems a bit inappropriate for a business blog. For all I can tell, Pressflip will be better off for having dropped a founder whose priorities were shifting strongly away from the company. But the business reporting aspect was ignored in leiu of Arrington's "I told you so" post that is basically aimed at having the triumphant last word in the overly personal spat he's been having with Dziuba since way back.

I think if there's anything due Ted via karma, it's an Uncov like bashing of the technical aspects of Pressflip (which, as far as I can tell, is actually well architected...). Why rag on a guy for living his life?


To be fair, Dziuba's criticisms of startups have always been on technical and design points.

Not really. Dziuba's rants had a self-pitying aspect. He seemed to be really bitter about the success or inordinate attention given to people he considered less talented than himself.

It was like a kid who joins math club and is deeply distressed to find out that even in math club, there are the popular kids who get away with everything. I sympathize -- I've been that kid. And the Web 2.0 scene was, IS, ripe for satire. But I think Ted (or at least his blogger persona) tended to be more about the rage of the child prodigy that, as an adult, is no longer the center of attention.


"Not really. Dziuba's rants had a self-pitying aspect. He seemed to be really bitter about the success or inordinate attention given to people he considered less talented than himself."

Wow. I got none of that from his posts. Unlike most ranters, he never struck me as bitter or slighted, just bizarrely funny in his attacks on what he thought were dopey ideas or poor implementations.


Hm, maybe you're right. I just went back to uncov's archive and I do agree with about 95% of what he says.

But he did have this obsession with tearing down "beautiful people" who weren't particularly great programmers, like Leah Culver and Kevin Rose. I don't know if anything he said about them was actually wrong, but it just seems so high-school-nerdish to care so much.


It's hilarious how much power you people attribute to Ted -- he wrote a few paragraphs sprinkled with profanity juxtaposed with a picture found off 4chan, how damaging is this really suppose to be? -- and how delightful you people are in taking him down a notch.

A troll is only as powerful as the audience he gathers. It's also the internet, take the joke, it's not serious business. You people bought his shit hook, line and sinker but now want to drag out his 15 minutes of fame some more.

So, Jay? Nothing personal against you but how about this? Move on. No one cares. Focus on your own shit instead of taking pot shots just like he did.


"It's also the internet, take the joke, it's not serious business."

That looks like a non sequitur to me. If it's a joke and not "serious business", fine. Same might be said of a person yelling profanities at you on the street. But what does the Internet have to do with it?


Alaska Miller, I agree that we're giving him too much power by all the attention. But he already has gathered the power through all that he has wrote - thus, it's not like I'm contributing to the problem in any significant way.

and to quote someone else on YC: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=336367

Reminds me of the maxim: Be nice to people on the way up, because they’re the same ones you’re going to meet on the way back down again.

Also, thanks for the good advice to move on, but also know that I haven't not moved on. If I held any parts of my life back because of this person, then shame on me for letting his poison affect me at all. So yes, I am focused on my own shit.

But I still enjoy taking the pot shots.




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