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[jtbayly]

This is just redefining terms, then.

We know the app decrypts it to display it. But if the app decrypts it to send it to the parent company, then it is by definition not end to end encrypted anymore.

If the app decrypts it, analyzes it and sends information about the message to the parent company, then the same thing is happening. The parent company is reading the message, INSTEAD of E2E encrypting it. It doesn't matter whether that reading happens on device or on the company's servers. E2E means the company is not reading it.

[propogandist → jtbayly]

there was a time when “Unlimited” meant without any limits, but US cell carriers have redefined the term to support their business model.

It’s possible that this data harvesting ad company has redefined what E2E means (to them) to advance their business interests.

[charcircuit → jtbayly]

>then it is by definition not end to end encrypted anymore.

HTTPS is E2E between the client and the server.