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What I've learned from the world's elite is that hustle culture has it all wrong (twitter.com/ndamukongsuh)
27 points by rmason on Aug 14, 2022 | hide | past | favorite | 22 comments



If you can afford a $2500/month assistant, I think you are much further separated from the rest of us who are hustling to put a few extra dollars on the table.

His advice is quite sound in general though, it just reads like one of those “how to make a million dollars” posts and it turns out the parents gifted the million dollars by the end of the author describing all the grueling work they do each day.


Yeah, that stuck out right away. If you give someone a full-time secretary to relieve you of just the basic paperwork of life (paying bills, going to the DMV, etc.) you've freed up a LOT of time.


I'm not sure what I can get out of this. He's rich because he was a professional athlete and invested his capital not because his calendar system gives him enhanced efficiency.


I remember when Ndamukong Suh played for the Detroit Lions. The fans adored him and he said that he loved Detroit. But as soon as his contract was up and another team offered him a richer contract than the Lions were willing to match he was gone. For him it was primarily always about the money.


This is perfectly normal professional behavior that nearly everyone engages in when it comes to their career.

You shouldn't let it negate the emotions you felt when he played for your team.


Yeah, I don't really see the big deal about this. Taking a better contract isn't proof that he didn't love Detroit; it's not like an athlete can only love playing for one specific team/location, and even if that weren't the case, I don't think that's a good reason to refuse a better offer (especially since sometimes a team won't want to resign a player for various reasons, e.g. not having the budget to pay the player as much as they would get elsewhere, or having signed a younger promising player in the same position). I think this is a fairly non-controversial opinion on Hacker News for software engineers (i.e. the company you work for doesn't have any specific loyalty to you and would happily replace you with someone cheaper who does equivalent work if they could), and as much as I have emotional attachment to my favorite sports team and don't really think that the difference between $10 million/year and $15 million/year will make that big a difference in someone's life, I don't see why the same principal wouldn't apply to them/


It's less the team than the city with me. Detroiters get disrespected so much that we have a bit of a chip on our soldier. I actually don't follow pro football in the least because if I did I'd have to follow the Lions who are arguably the biggest losers in the sport.

There are players who have no allegiance to the city. They're not out in the restaurants or clubs. They're not volunteering with city's charities. So when they leave for more money it's just not that big a deal.

Some of my heroes as a kid were Detroit Tigers baseball players like Al Kaline, Willie Horton and Mickey Lolich who spent their entire careers with the team. The city rewarded whatever money they might have passed up with business success after they were done playing.

Vinnie 'the microwave' Johnson from the Detroit Pistons started a auto parts company after his playing career and has made hundreds of millions of dollars. He was from Brooklyn and could easily have returned there to equal opportunities in business.


you are loved. you are worthy. you are enough just as you are.


>You shouldn't let it negate the emotions you felt when he played for your team.

for the life of me, I can't figure why people care about multimillionaires playing games with other multimillionaires, in teams owned by billionairs.

How to people get excited by that? Why does anyone care, let alone get emotional if some millionaire playing a game paid by a billionaire, should come or go?

Weird.


If anything the fact that it took a non-trivial pay bump to get him to move is probably a good sign he did like (or at least not dislike) the city. Now if someone took a pay cut to play on a different team, that might be a slap in the face.


In this case, shouldn’t your anger be directed at the team? I understand these teams have quite a bit of money; why should he stay at a workplace where he isn’t valued? Many of us would do the same thing in a similar position.



Learning to delegate well at work is the best way to free up your time.

I'm dumbstruck by the profundity.

Just so I can value-add and not be a shitposter, I'll add this anecdote:

Many years ago I was watching a get-rich-quick by house flipping video. The motivational speaker was pacing around the stage for the excited audience of potential house flippers and at one point he says:

"What do you do if your tenants don't want to take over the mortgage payments? Evict them and find someone who will."

Not quite that easy, champ.


What ive learned about the elite is they are not taxed enough


Appreciate this softer side coming from someone known to be absolutely vicious on the football field. Also while I think it's fair to lump Suh in with all of the other "I got rich, you can do it too" hucksters, he does stand apart from his peers in professional expectations, performance and longevity. So I imagine this is solid advice for an NFL rookie or pro who is trying to navigate the leeches and scammers endemic to pro sports.


NFL rookies know they're in the "playing football" business; but many of them, having a big windfall, are suddenly in a number of other businesses that they aren't aware of, whether they like it or not. Suh is pointing that out, and being at the higher end of the income scale, is doing a better job than most at managing the whole thing.


The problem with all these self help gurus is that they end up advising exactly opposite of what they preach. This dude’s schedule looks sheer torture. He basically never turns off and lives fairly robotic life with military discipline but at the same time says that hustle culture is wrong. This reminds me of Tim Ferris who made millions by preaching 4 hour work week only to reveal later that he was basically all but maniac.


It is not what you know, but who you know.

Most of the really rich do not have that pitiful schedule, they let others have that schedule for them.

For happiness it's important to have a balance between on and off.

But some of us rather be rich than happy.



The most important point here is delegate. Basically get someone else to do the work for you. Your job is that you hire the right person.


I wonder whom did he delegate to write that thread?


The short version: just be rich




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