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Aside: One of the worst trends we have going is emojis in articles, commit messages, readmes and PRs. Emojis are great for chat when you want to express emotions. When it comes to reading text anywhere else:

- It distracts from years of training we have in recognizing characters of a particular language and word shapes

- It takes an extra second to process the symbol since we're not used to it. For example, "Notice a _bug_emoji_ ? Send us an email." [1]

- It draws eyes to the Emoji's first because they're foreign symbols and they're painted in color.

- Notion is one of those products that encourages this. I really don't see the benefit. Perhaps in labels it is ok - since its a symbol that's used to categorize things, and it is not prose.

[1] https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/...




Now imagine if you're a user who's grown up in a generation that have always had emojis:

- They are part of our language and easily recognized from years of training

- Emojis are recognized immediate before reading a word and add to the speed and efficiency (as well as depth) of communication

- It becomes easier to understand sentiment before reading a word

- You're rules about where you should and shouldn't use emojis seem arbitrary

It's not as easy as it used to be to understand what all users want - your intuition about your preferences don't necessarily apply as broadly as they might once have.

As more young people build software products and become bigger audiences for other products, you're probably going to have to broaden your perspective on what experiences are common to all users.


Instead of arguing from first principles and the origins of Emojis, we're arguing - "Just get used to it". This is, my friend, how we regress as a society as no one challenges the status-quo.

I was hoping you'd provide some objective reasons that my comment was lacking, but you did none of those. I am open to hear and listen. We don't broaden the perspective for flat earthers, right? If we did, we would regress.

If there is any glimmer of hope - it would turn Emojis like symbols in Japanese Kanji script. They'd become logographic characters that are universally recognized across all languages. But, we're far from that. It needs to be formally included in the language, dictionary and schools.


My point is that _some_ users don't need to "just get used to it" at all since it's part of what they are already used to.

I'm not trying to convince you that you're wrong, just that you're not representative of all users. Your arguments are heavily biased by your age/experience. Young people matter too, right?


> Your arguments are heavily biased by your age/experience. Young people matter too, right?

I flagged your comment, this type of judgemental attitude has no place on HN.


Really not trying to dismiss your perspective. Just pointing out your bias. Your views aren't entirely objective and pointing that out isn't being judgemental. Sorry if it came across that way.


hard disagree. Even if you don't like emoji , they have become a part of digital communication, and there are lots of ways they improve communication. I use them most of the time to indicate that I'm saying something playfully, as that tone can often get lost in communication. We wouldn't want that, would we?

But more than that bemoaning the natural progression of language as an indicator of societal decline isn't very useful .


And Notion stops me from zooming on the text and disables reader view (iOS feature that shows the text only). Why? Zooming is core feature of a web browser.




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