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The IRS Is Outgunned (nytimes.com)
41 points by dredmorbius on Oct 2, 2020 | hide | past | favorite | 6 comments



Tax collection becoming compromised can have broad societal impact: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/10/world/africa/south-africa...


Broadly I agree, but as a South African currently sitting in the economic capital of the country: The article is way off, with a mostly rubbish conclusion(edit).

What happened to us started long, long before the collapse of SARS (our tax agency).

The collapse of SARS was the result of corruption, not the catalyst.

It wasn't the SARS reshuffle that bled a few percentage of our GDP into the hands of private individuals. It wasn't SARS who funneled that money out of the country (almost certainly HSBC). It's not SARS that is refusing to attend court dates for a criminal trial into the matter. It was a long, well planned and well executed hijacking of social structure and just jaw dropping corruption.

That Zuma dodged tax responsibilities is nowhere near as problematic as the arms deal [0], or state capture [1]

The New York Times completely misses the point with this article.

CORRUPTION is the root of collapse of a system of governance. A better argument to make here is that the IRS's woes are a red flag that should be jumped on. Trump hasn't paid much tax (like Zuma) and the Church of Scientology straight up bullied the IRS into submission.

Those are 2 very concerning thoughts.

To reword my argument: Tax colletion becoming compromised is the result of a larger societal impact from corruption upstream.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Arms_Deal

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_capture


> The New York Times completely misses the point with this article.

It wouldn't be the first time - I should have phrased that more speculatively - tnx.

> Tax colletion becoming compromised is the result of a larger societal impact from corruption upstream.

So perhaps a feedback loop? Both an effect and a cause.

> the IRS's woes are a red flag that should be jumped on

As "that isn't us - we don't do that - it just isn't done" norms weaken, the available "jumped on" response perhaps does as well.

I wonder how good the research literature on strengthening civil society and institutions is?


I’d be much more receptive to the IRS getting more resources if we also address the insane complexity that is our tax code.

Given how many weird loopholes it contains it’s no wonder that they don’t have enough horsepower to compete with the lawyers of the ultra rich...


The problems are of course related.


Repeal the 16th amendment.




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