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[dupe] In sign of the times, Ayn Rand Institute approved for PPP loan (reuters.com)
29 points by artur_makly on July 8, 2020 | hide | past | favorite | 8 comments




Thank you, Dan. It's certainly tough to catch differing URLs for the same story, but two of those submissions[1,2] appear to share the exact same link[3], with the first one flagged. I imagine it must be uncommon for an identical URL of a flagged submission to be accepted again so soon?

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23764542

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23757033

[3] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-ppp-ay...


The dupe detector doesn't consider flags, and it allows reposts if an article hasn't had significant attention yet. It's porous on purpose, to allow good articles multiple chances at attention. Unfortunately, since we have no software to distinguish good articles from bad ones, it also allows bad ones multiple chances at attention. Thems the breaks.


I normally don't comment on identical or similar stories I've submitted earlier, but in this case find both the subject and the flagging sufficiently interesting to share:

The Ayn Rand Institute Takes a Loan from Paycheck Protection Program https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23762937


I am a libertarian (not objectivist) and I see no moral issue with taking money from the government. I (and everyone else) pays for this, even if I adamantly oppose any number of government services.

If I could opt-out from paying for (social security, endless wars, the DMV, and on and on) I would, but I can’t, and I pay all my taxes, so I should get the crappy benefits they provide. I just advocate for personal choice and less government.


It is a tremendously difficult ethical problem to unwind. Is it ethical to let someone else dole your own money back to you? That's the part I struggle to understand the merit to. One wouldn't need loans from an all powerful central government if not for forced reappropriation of the wealth in the first place. Somehow, people would trade.


Most people have similar justifications for their own actions. It's just that it's very, very common to not accept that logic from others if you dislike them.

You read ten times a day that it's not ok to criticize say, conflict minerals, if you own an iPhone.

In a vague way, calling yourself an "Objectivist" seems like you ought to be less susceptible to the so called "fundamental attribution error".


Did the institute pay taxes?

Honest question, I don't know.




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