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Boing boing cherry picking the only thing they approve of out of the chaos? There's no evidence that any of the ddos'ers are on board with this at all.

The most amusing thing is the comments section getting bent out of shape at the use of 'gentlemen' in the image as not being inclusive to females. Talk about a culture clash.



> There's no evidence that any of the ddos'ers are on board with this at all.

And given this groups nature I don't think there will be much evidence about anything they do at all, other than initial communications, side effects and occasionally apparently an arrest.

That's the nature of the beast, and that is exactly what makes it so hard to come to terms with it for many people that would like to see 'organization'. To the extent that anon has an organization you'd probably have to name them 'core' or something like that and even that does not really do it justice. This is a fairly complex issue and even talking about it I find it hard to pick exactly the right terms without almost automatically falling back to using terms that somehow subtly do not apply.

What evidence would satisfy you that some people of some anonymous group are partaking in some activity claiming that they partook in some other activity ?


it's much more centralized than you're giving it credit for. the ability to focus on one site at a time is the only way they're bringing down these sites. operations run out of a specific irc network. the targets and times are ultimately selected by a pretty small core group of irc ops and others. the ddos tool they use is commonly used with a feature that allows those ops to choose or change targets for everyone with the feature on.

so to answer you question, i'd say evidence of support for the plan on the irc network, and/or a lack of targets given for hivemind.


Oh come on, the 'gentelman' is referring to the spirit of the statement, is a figure of speech and does not refer to any gender at all. In the concept of Anonymous there are no genders, faces or names, all are equal.

If they'd start to bend it to contemporary political correctness, it would loose it's meaning.


"In the concept of Anonymous there are no genders, faces or names, all are equal."

Sounds ghastly.

Edit:

Lol, so I'm at 0.

No, seriously, as an aspirational statement it sounds horrible. The elimination of difference instead of its celebration! The difference is life, and faces and names are individuality!

And the privileging of certain characteristics inherent in such sameness would itself be tyranny if carried beyond a game. Everyone is deemed a Gentleman and questioning that homogenisation is considered worthy of downmodding?

Celebrate individuality and difference, don't deny it. Fight sexism by celebrating each individual and not by pretending that gender doesn't exist and then calling everyone Gentlemen.


... if you think that that sounds 'ghastly,' I won't bother to tell you Anon's _real_ name for women. 'femanon' is a neologism.

Regardless, to actually reply to your post, you didn't get downmodded because 'questioning homogenization.' It's because you didn't actually question it: you only said two words. Your edit is much better.

Secondly, this is much deeper than 'fighting sexism,' and Anonymous isn't really out to actually destroy gender... There are, however, many groups that _are_ explicitly about destroying the concept of gender. Anarcha-feminists, people who identify as 'genderqueer,' and... well, even boring old vanilla me, for example. On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog. Or a boy. or a girl. It's much better that way.


Yeah, I always get voted down when I bring stuff like that up.

EDIT: downvoted. quelle surprise.


boing boing cherry picking the only thing they find interesting out of the chaos?


Boing Boing is the website where the article is, cherry picking is a cliche for "picking only the best," and there could have been an "Is" at the beginning. It did take me a minute to understand, though, if that's all you meant.


he did s/approve of/find interesting/


Yes. Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?


As a female, I occasionally address my other female friends as 'gentlemen' when in a group to illicit laughter. We find it amusing, and have no problem being addressed as gentlemen. Take back the night etc?


How are you gentlemen !!

All your leak are belong to us.


I was online last night, this thread saged pretty fast actually. Just grabbing stuff to write about off /b/.




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