If there's any delusion about Meng's arrest NOT being a political stunt that the US is pulling, set such thoughts aside. How many banking executives were arrested after the 2007/2008 financial collapse? If you picked 0, you not only picked right, but also saw the Justice system not pulling stunts.
Huawei - like the banks, is a company that has allegedly violated sanctions against Iran. A just response would be to go after Huawei, the company - which in a way has already happened with multiple bans within the US and from allies.
Despite China having a much worse and unjust Justice system, I believe their response is appropriate, but tragic - in that individuals are now being horse traded by Nations. But the US did start it! And if you naively think the US/Canada are merely enforcing the law without bias, then you have to explain why high ranking officials of US companies never get arrested by the Justice department for crimes committed by the companies
No, a just response would exactly be to go after the people responsible (that is, the criminals), instead of a fine just paid by shareholders. Executives only fear personal consequences. But you are proposing retaliation against individuals who had no involvement in criminality.
There is only one basis to complain about Meng, which is the extra-territoriality of US sanctions law. But it isn't even about sanctions, it is about fraud committed by lying to lending banks. When executives set up structures to achieve deception they can't expect to escape consequences.
There are always people in high places doing criminal things on the behest of their employers/companies. Like I stated, the 2007 financial meltdown is a prime example.
It's fairly obvious why this particular case is being aggressively pursued. FYI - Western execs probably break a ton of Chinese criminal laws, expect some arrests there if the West selectively chastises Chinese executives for bargaining chips.
Are the US going to go after the European officials/ companies who are actively working to sidestep Iran sanctions right now? It's the exact same thing yet on a far larger scale. This whole case has nothing to do with enforcing sanctions.
HN title diverges from article title, which I find is counterproductive on giving the reader a hint on what to expect. The real title of the article is "Former Canadian Diplomat Detained in China, Adding to Tensions".
I might be wrong, but to "disappear" to me means that it's not clear what happened to them, except the journal doesn't seem particularly unsure about that aspect of the story.
The title may have changed because I just copy/pasted it here when submitting. I did not add “disappears” myself, and I am happy if a moderator wishes to change it now.
The titles of Times articles are in flux during revisions. Discrepancy between posted and observed titles therefore does not necessarily imply that the poster editorialized.
It is important to always be aware that arrests and disappearances in China are about state power, never ever about justice. Just ask a crime victim. Then ask a victim of state persecution.
Even the killing of a street dog in Hangzhou is about state power and you cannot forget that.
To take down a Huawei executive and break a trade flow involving Iran is majorly affecting the state (the Communist Party), so they will fight back with thuggery against Canadians and Americans.
Lol you say this on the day where the Prssident literally said they detained the CFO of a Chinese company to help them gain an advantage in the trade war.
Pretty sure this will turn into a daily prisoner swap. And if we are lucky no shooting at each other this year. Chinese media is making a banquet out of this. I can’t believe it isn’t getting more traction in the (our) news. This isn’t exactly a detention of jane q nobody.
And the west isn't like this whatsoever? Do people actually believe this about china and think that the liberal west doesn't have state power seeping through every nook and cranny?
Nothing is perfect. How is that an argument though? It's not right for any state to do this. We should still want to call out such things despite other states past or current failings. Moreover, compared to the west the abuse of power generally is more constrained and dealt with when discovered. Yes, states hold power, but we should always be skeptical of any state because they hold power. Particularly, a state such as China that has repeatedly demonstrated that they will use it in questionable to outright unjust ways.
Huawei - like the banks, is a company that has allegedly violated sanctions against Iran. A just response would be to go after Huawei, the company - which in a way has already happened with multiple bans within the US and from allies.
Despite China having a much worse and unjust Justice system, I believe their response is appropriate, but tragic - in that individuals are now being horse traded by Nations. But the US did start it! And if you naively think the US/Canada are merely enforcing the law without bias, then you have to explain why high ranking officials of US companies never get arrested by the Justice department for crimes committed by the companies