What's the point here? Is this not common sense? Too much of anything is bad. Why bring complicated subjects radioactivity to this point when all you need to do is use the example of water, ie: you can die from consuming too much water, and it is called water poisoning.
Is your point merely that everything is Schrödinger's chemical unless we study it? That is a stupid stance. This article is clearly associating a = b+c, ie: this chemical is causing bad things for your intestinal microbes which leads to diabetes, etc.
I feel like you are maliciously attempting to downplay the severeness of the studies' results by introducing the Schrödinger argument. I am calling the quote by ET Jaynes to be pointless and equating his example of radioactivity to the aforementioned water example.
With this equation in mind, are you trying to say that a small dose of our insecticides is good for us, but, we are abusing it? Do you have any grounds for this? Even E.T Jaynes implies there is no proof for this statement because of the lack of studies. Why would you downplay this?
Indeed it is the age old idea of "the dose makes the poison". What Jaynes is saying is a bit more than that though. Most people assume toxic chemicals have a linear response. If you take half the poison, it will still have 50% of the effect of the full dose. Jaynes argues this model is completely wrong and under a certain threshold there is basically no effect. If you look at a study of people or animals exposed to high doses of pesticide, it doesn't really tell you anything about normal people exposed to much smaller doses.
More than that, he is saying there is a double standard for synthetic substances.We treat them with much more fear and caution than the natural chemicals we are exposed to all the time. Many common vegetables would not pass FDA requirements if they were "invented" today. They contain thousands of chemicals. Many of which have never been tested, and some of which are even known to be toxic. Like solanine.
That's great, but, not the subject of this post. We're not discussing the theory of whether new chemicals are good or bad. I agree with you that the general consensus is to overly fear man made chemicals, which is wrong and also stupid.
The issue I am having with the comment is that this is a specific study on a specific set of chemicals that produced a specific outcome. We're not discussing chemicals in general, and yet you are making it seem like the results of this study should be ignored because chemicals can be good and bad.
To draw a comparison, it's like someone posted an article about high concentrations of asbestos leading to health problems, implying that maybe we shouldn't use it as an insulator. It's not implying that we shouldn't use insulators. It's simply implying that maybe we should reconsider the use of this specific insulator. Then you come in commenting nonsense about how insulators are a good thing, and that we need insulators. The issue is that nobody is arguing against you. You're right that insulators are a good thing and necessary. The problem is that takes away from the main point of the article, that we should reconsider the use of this specific item.
The grandparent comment I replied to is literally about fearing man made chemicals in general.
>To draw a comparison, it's like someone posted an article about high concentrations of asbestos leading to health problems, implying that maybe we shouldn't use it as an insulator. It's not implying that we shouldn't use insulators. It's simply implying that maybe we should reconsider the use of this specific insulator. Then you come in commenting nonsense about how insulators are a good thing, and that we need insulators.
It would be more like if someone posted an article about asbestos, and the top comment was about how they strongly distrust all man made materials.
Is your point merely that everything is Schrödinger's chemical unless we study it? That is a stupid stance. This article is clearly associating a = b+c, ie: this chemical is causing bad things for your intestinal microbes which leads to diabetes, etc.
I feel like you are maliciously attempting to downplay the severeness of the studies' results by introducing the Schrödinger argument. I am calling the quote by ET Jaynes to be pointless and equating his example of radioactivity to the aforementioned water example.
With this equation in mind, are you trying to say that a small dose of our insecticides is good for us, but, we are abusing it? Do you have any grounds for this? Even E.T Jaynes implies there is no proof for this statement because of the lack of studies. Why would you downplay this?