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Ugh, the way this writer talks about women is pretty gross. I know its a piece about two of the most macho types in midcentury literature, but must the author of the article really refer to women as "conquests"?


Thanks for the warning -- this sounds borderline NSFW. Will avoid the article while on a work system.


I know you are being ironic, but the fact that this is the reply and im getting downvotes just shows how HN thinks about and treats women.


People who receive downvotes frequently speculate as to why. It's rare that they speculate that they were downvoted for making comments which are flame-bait, uninteresting, or off-topic.

I believe that HN could use a huge improvement in how "we" treat women, but I'm not going to point to your comment or downvotes as an example of fighting the good fight.


Then what is fighting the good fight if not bringing attention to negative attitudes towards women? It's an article about two very overrated writers who treated women terribly and yet rather than critically approach the attitudes of these authors, the article's writer gleefully revels in their chauvinism. I was bringing it to attention since it is very relevant to the article at hand.


I am puzzled what you consider being sexist here. It's just consented sex between adults, no need to feel sorry for anyone. Both men and women who have had many partners often get cynical about that and I have heard this kind of language from people of both sexes. And it does not mean treating partners terribly. Two people can meet, have sex and part ways thinking that they had another "conquest" without having any bad feelings about the encounter.


Your reaction to downvotes looks extremely flame-baity to me. It certainly makes me cringe. But that's just me, I didn't downvote you.


If this is something you want to discuss, I suggest re-submitting next week after the detox ends. Some of the down-votes you're receiving could be due to members trying to stay in keeping with the detox:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13108404


I've never read an article about Genghis Khan that warns us that murder is bad.

It's assumed that we can discuss his actions without making them a template for our own.


Actually, the post you replied to seemed serious.

fwiw, I read that as being in the voice of "his wife's biographer", not the modern author. And either way, to be about the fellow's behavior, not some actual judgement of the worth of women.


You were right; this was sincere. Any article about Literally Vladimir Nabokov is going to be a questionable choice for workplace reading; if the author's cheering on his and Wilson's promiscuity, it's definitely not something you want open when a co-worker comes over.


No, I wasn't being ironic. I'm pretty familiar with how shady both men's sexual ethics were...


This is some incredibly naive thinking. To build a 'positive future' you need to focus on the problems its facing - otherwise what are you building?


AppNexus just fired something 14% of their staff in NYC, around 150 jobs. Mostly marketing/sales but I knew a few devs who got canned. Apparently doing some housecleaning before their IPO


Related: Rubicon and AOL have done some house cleaning as well


Rubicon's been taking a beating in the market. I hope that AppNexus' IPO along with Snapchats brings some energy back into adtech and new tech stocks.


All ad tech stocks that are not GOOG and FB are getting slammed. They cannot compete against the data and ML talent of those two companies.


The reason why so much of it was negative is because the majority of things he said were flat out lies or smearing other people.


> The reason why so much of it was negative is because the majority of things he said were flat out lies or smearing other people.

What if your beloved media companies dedicated themselves to spin everything Trump said to cast it at a bad light, and bent themselves backwards to filter in only the unpopular stuff?

There was no impartial coverage of Trump. In fact, the US coverage did its best to focus only on two candidates, and invested heavily in gunning down one of those candiates. This, in spite of their pet candidate being involved in multiple criminal investigations and suffering from debilitating health problems.


If people keep spouting stuff like this we can look forward to eight years of Trump in office.


Sorry, 'serge', but I am gonna call out things the president-elect says - such as that three million people voted illegally in the last election - as what they are: grade A bullshit.


Ah yes because the mainstream media censored Trump so much. I didn't see any coverage of him or his views anywhere! And I certainly didn't see the bullshit he said just simply parroted and repeated in newspaper headlines without any clarification or fact checking at all.

Give me a fucking break.


'Crazy racist' and 'homophobic' narrative certainly hurt Trump as well as him 'Raping 13 year kid' and multiple other women according to MSM.

Compare the source what he really said and what was reported[0]

[0]http://www.salon.com/2015/12/21/the_media_needs_to_stop_tell...


> Ah yes because the mainstream media censored Trump so much.

I'm not even american, but even I noticed how major media companies such as CNN or NBC insisted in dedicating major time slots just to defame and harass Trump.

I mean, in CNN we even had Fareed Zakaria dedicating all his show just to quite blatantly state that Trump was all kinds of awful and incompetent and unfit for president.

Whether Trump was or wasn't a good candidate is immaterial. The truth is that the bulk of the US mass media was gunning for Trump, some were subtle but others were going at it harder than attack ads.


So you'd rather them be impersonal and haughty?

Personally I have less respect for "detached" institutions nowadays. It removes them from the concerns of their users and attendees and creates an echo chamber. I love that you can directly petition companies with twitter and air grievances against them in public. It's high time companies act like they are run by and for humans and not just some black box of capital.

Also it's a dictionary - it's supposed to engage and work with language. And right now, twitter is where a lot of new usage of language is being fomented.


My personal favorite, "The Great Silence" - http://supercommunity.e-flux.com/texts/the-great-silence/


Except it is. The text of the 13th amendment:

>Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

"Except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted..."

Hundreds of thousands of Americans toil away in prisons as free labor due to "tough on crime" policies and the militarization of police forces. McDonald's, Whole Foods, Walmart, they all use prison labor where the prisoners get paid literally cents an hour and sometimes not at all.

There were big prison strikes and protests about it earlier this year - https://theintercept.com/2016/09/16/the-largest-prison-strik...

It's terrifying.


>Judging by this article and others, "alt-right" seems to be turning into another way of saying "politics I don't like and wish weren't taken seriously" - not that it ever referred to any particularly coherent movement in the first place, but those in the media can't seem to further dilute the label quickly enough, and even those who formerly adopted it seem to be starting to move away.

The term "alt-right" was coined by Richard Spencer and initially referred specifically to his paleoconservative brand of ethno-nationalism. Now it is a broader term, yes, but it's meaning is generally intact.


No Hindu is not an ethnicity, and RSS has more in common with say, Ayatollahs or Erdogan than with Hitler or Stalin. Every strain of populism even the religious kind is not fascism. Before declaring India a fascist state you have 50 some "Islamic Republics" that fit the bill of your definition of fascism.

edit: India is some how a fascist country for having a democratically elected right-wing party, but countries with Official state religions are not. I will drink your down votes, please keep them coming.


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