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I doubt they set out to launch eleven times without reaching orbit.

They very explicitly were not setting out for orbit for most of them.

Yes, but if you asked someone at SpaceX before flight 1 where they would be by flight 11, I doubt they would have been happy about the reality.

And?

Not a single one of them had reaching stable orbit in the flight plan.

Well the SLS has already sent a capsule around the Moon. And it has kept a lot of people employed. That's pretty much what it was intended to do.

Only the latter achievement was a real intention. The former is just the malarkey useful to sell it

Tesla seems like a terrible example. The obvious answer would be because Europe doesn't have meme stocks.

When do the shipments from the asteroid mines start arriving?

Citizens don't need an ETA. Only non-citizens are affected.

How much dangerous censorship does your Asian nation carry out? India, for example, blocks thousands of websites - no sex work for them - and regularly shuts down the Internet entirely.

Why is the response to all of this a giant ad hominem. “Oh but <region> does it too!” - how does this help me as an European?

Why else do you think I mentioned that the EU is on a dangerous path ? I utterly stand against govt censorship.

But corporate censorship by companies larger and more powerful than most countries with no democratic accountability is ok?

Govt is far worse since Corporates can't throw you in jail for social media posts - which is what is happening.

The US.

What about the reverse? If China announces a unilateral pause, would the US follow?


We weren't that far away from ATMs refusing to hand out cash, banks limiting withdrawals from accounts (if your bank hadn't already gone under), and a subsequent complete collapse of the financial system. The only thing that saved us from that was an extraordinary intervention by governments, something I am not sure they would be capable of doing today.


The source seems to be here: https://bsky.app/profile/gro-tsen.bsky.social/post/3meiqswj7...

It is a weird error, true.


That's not only the source of "Scalier" but, from the looks of it, a significant chunk of the embedded e-mail thing. So it was maybe just copied from a bluesky thread?


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