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Came to say this. Thanks for gettin' that for me.

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George Bernard Shaw, iirc

On the general question: there is an obvious distinction to be made between someone asking you for advice on what they plan to spend the next three years doing, and what they're hacking together on a single pizza-fueled weekend. The latter is a learning experience and even without your advice they'll fail fast if they fail, so don't sweat it.

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> My point is that Openness advocates seem to place Google on a pedestal

That may be your perception, but I don't think it's universally true. Ask anyone who's tried to build a project on AOSP ...

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> there's no semantic distinction between code and data

I struggle to understand how this can be true, and I say that as a Lisper (spiritually if not currently), because 'this data does something meaningful when interpreted by a computer' is exactly a semantic distinction from 'this other data doesn't'

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What is the semantic difference between data which does nothing meaningful and lisp code that does nothing meaningful?

Or to be Wittgensteinian about it, point to the part of a datum which is the meaning.

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I quite like my code separated from my data.

Being able to open up a word processing document without it being able to execute arbitrary code on my computer is one of the many benefits.

Oh, wait, Microsoft Word macros...

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As stories go, this one would be a lot better if it actually linked to some technical information about the bug. Does anyone have a reference for what the samsung_laptop driver's doing that is so bad? The kernel bugzilla link (#47121) that someone has speculated is related is a boot panic, not a complete bricking, so while it _may_ be the same thing ...

https://bugzilla.kernel.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=samsung-... # but nothing else in there looks to be any closer either

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The article is from May 2012, perhaps the thread title could be updated to say so?

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To be fair most of these articles could be kept current simply by updating the date and the outrage to latest version.

Sure, facebook is creepy and annoying and provides little value to me but until average people start deleting their accounts it doesn't matter at all.

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the fact that the act of deleting one's fb profile is considered newsworthy means fb is here to stay for now

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Only if you write for the New Yorker and don't have anything better to write about.

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Indeed, the value of threading on usenet was that it provided data for the user-agent to decide in what order to present unread posts to the user - if the original topic A had drifted to subjects B C and D which were being discussed in parallel, when reading it three hours later I would get all the posts about B before the posts about C and then the posts about D. And if I grew tired of B I could hit 'k' and move immediately onto C. As long as I wanted to carry on reading, though, all I needed to do was hit SPACE (or in today's language, scroll down)

This is all a completely separate issue from the one of whether replies should be indented under their parent. For my money, this only makes sense if the reply is approximately as long as 'ME TOO!!!11!!!1!' and in the more interesting case that the reply is actually a reply and not just a comment, indenting is the wrong decision. But there is no need to conflate the two: ordering and indenting are independent decisions

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Er, this is email we're talking about here, not http

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Ugh thanks for pointing that out - way too early for me and I glossed over the "gmail" part vs google.

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So why is an article about the Metropolitan Police forensic lab in south London (UK) illustrated with a stock photo of what appears to be a US power socket? (It might be a Euro socket, but it's certainly not a UK one.) Do they not have electricity sockets anywhere at the BBC that they could have taken a picture of?

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This is the illustration I see (I think it might be European):

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/64639000/jpg/_64639977...

This is what very nearly every power outlet in the U.S. looks like, down to the color, vertical configuration, and flat-head screw in the center:

http://img.ehowcdn.com/article-new/ds-photo/getty/article/16...

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Those are identical to the outlets I saw in Germany, so I guess they're European. Definitely not American though.

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Yep, they're German.

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The continual references to how much easier it was "ten years ago" makes me wonder if the author was actually in the industry ten years ago, or is merely using it as a shorthand for "grandpa's stories of how it was in his day"

I'm pretty sure I could have written the same thing in 2002 except that the list of technologies would have looked different.

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