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Are they? Do we have any statistical information on who is being apprehended and their characteristics?

> Do we have any statistical information on who is being apprehended and their characteristics?

As of Saturday, it was about 118 arrests, 20 of which appeared to have been targeted towards dangerous people [1]. Otherwise, the locations of the raids have been employers, e.g. the garment warehouse [2] and Italian restaurant. I am assuming they aren’t working for free. (To my knowledge, no refugee centres have been raided as part of these actions in LA.)

[1] https://laist.com/news/criminal-justice/officials-name-12-ic...

[2] https://abc7.com/post/who-is-ice-arresting-in-socal-raids-7-...


How would the fox be making it from the rooftop down to the 5th floor?

If contained on the rooftop, I would just chalk it up to a win and eat mitigation unless it becomes a problem


There is actually a significant portion of the population that wants nothing to do with it and wont even google their cancer diagnosis and leave it up to the experts.

You should in that case at least get a second opinion.

Also, just an FYI for anyone in here, there are people that call themselves doctors who will diagnose and cure cancer using magic. Any "clinic" that staffs a number of naturopathic doctors (NDs) and suggests that you can treat cancer with dietary changes is a grift that should be illegal.

I'm dealing with cancer in my family and one such clinic was the first suggestion by family members. This isn't the place, but it what to watch out for [1]. Always be leery when you see clinics downplaying traditional medicine. Notice on their staffing page that they have exactly 1 doctor on staff (not even a nurse practitioner) and that this doctor doesn't have any credentials in oncology. And if you check out the billing section, notice that they instruct you on how to commit insurance fraud. There's a reason they don't take medicare/medicaid and it's because committing fraud there is a jail sentence for them and you. For a large insurance company, it's a lawsuit to you.

Edit: Ah, found the actual place suggested to us [2]. You can see a lot of the same hallmarks on it vs the first link.

[1] https://brio-medical.com/

[2] https://www.envita.com


Not how it works. Doctors have wide latitude to treat patient based on their personal medical intuition. You already have doctors dosing patients at all times of day. If an A/B test shows evening is optimal, all the morning administrators will not suddenly become liable retroactively. Hell, they wont even be liable if they keep doing it in the morning because it fits their schedule better.

I seems like people cant help but discuss this issue in a black or white way, when it isnt a binary. Choice obviously matters. It is difficult to change. Environment obviously matters. It is difficult to change.

When talking about human society, environment is a culmination of collective choice.

People who say willpower is futile are still faced with choice of if they feed their kids soda and McDonalds for breakfast.


>There are a lot of non-jews living within Israel's borders, and Israel (as a state) fails those people regularly (and, arguably, by design: it does not really want to protect interests of citizens that deviate from that jwewish national identity).

I dont think this is well supported, or the source of conflict. The state seems to do a fairly good job of providing for citizens within boarders. Arab Israeli citizens have the right to vote in Israeli elections, run for office, and serve in the Knesset. They make up roughly 1.9 million people (about 20% of Israel's population).

You can argue that these people have civic representational differences as minority group, but this is a very different situation than people living Gaza or the west bank, and their representational rights.


Do you consider Westbank and/or Gaza a full state independent from Israel?

Because to me, those are (somewhat) autonomous regions under Israels control-- so still responsible for people living there.


I think that is the central question: Can you exert control while avoiding representational responsibility, and how much?

Nation states influence each other all the time. They threaten, sanction, and impose restrictions, especially when in conflict without invoking responsibility.

Now I agree that isnt a very accurate characterization of this situation. It is much more of an occupation. I still dont think that invokes a responsibility of enfranchisement, but it certain invokes some responsibility for the occupier. The US occupied Japan following WWII, but that doesnt mean Japanese became US citizens, but there are moral obligations.

I model the Palestinian situation as a failed occupation where there is no progress towards end of occupation criteria. Neither party want integration, nor are they ready for peaceful coexistence.

I dont think Israel has a responsibility to enfranchise or integrate, but it does have a obligation to provide and maintain an option for coexistence, and perpetually put real effort towards achieving it. That means giving 2nd, 3rd, or 100th chances.


> Do you consider Westbank and/or Gaza a full state independent from Israel?

Whether or not a legally independent state exists with some or all of that territory within its borders, that area is effectively controlled by, and in large part (including all of the West Bank, though the exact administrative details differ in different locations in the WB) under military occupation by, Israel.


I think there is a long list of reasons to think it is lower.

Self control is a skill which requires practice. A huge amount of our time and practice is devoted to chasing immediate gratification. Doom scrolling, tv, ect. This is all practicing the opposite.


The thing we seem to be learning especially now with GLP-1 drugs is that a lot of skinny people are not skinny because they have iron self control, but because they don't need it, because their bodies aren't constantly sending them screaming chemical signals to eat. These drugs turn those signals down and suddenly people stop wanting to eat so much.

So another hypothesis that seems totally in keeping with the data is that either 1) some group of people have always had this problem in history, they just haven't had access to food like we do now, and/or 2) something about modernity is pushing those chemical triggers up to overdrive in more people.

Self-control really sucks as a solution to anything. When was the last societal problem solved by a national campaign of personal self-control?


Im not saying there isnt a biological component. I think a large portion of the USA has a trashed metabolic and hormonal system. A lot of this damage is irreversible from overconsumption.

unless we start dosing children with GLP-1s preventatively for weight and medicate them for attention we should probably think about how we relate to our environmental conditions long term and prevent patterns from repeating.

There are lots of people out there not living their best lives


Other countries with access to phones and TVs but not mass produced foods stay leaner.

lots of other differences I imagine


neither? Negligence doesn't make sense because it was the VCs own money- no duty to care. It doesn't seem like anyone cashed out either.

Seems like a bad bet that went south.


>> Negligence doesn't make sense because it was the VCs own money

Almost definitionally, VCs are investing someone else's money (the people providing the capital are called the "limited partners" (LPs); the VCs who raise and invest the money are "general partners" (GPs).) The LPs are often pension funds, university endowments, and charitable organizations.

Yes, GPs do typically have a capital contribution requirement, but it's generally in the area of 1% of the fund, so the vast majority of what VCs are investing is other people's money, for which they definitely have fiduciary responsibility.


That's fair.

There is nothing wrong with going to school to obtain knowledge and skills to secure a job.

The problem with the modern educational system is that it isnt very efficient at this task. Instead, most of the value relies on the screening that took place before the students even entered the institution, not the knowledge obtained while there.


Yep, this is a huge problem. I've long argued that we need value add metrics for colleges, and it probably won't be a single number, but rather a set of values depending on input values, e.g., some schools may deliver a lot of value for kids with 1550 SATs, but other schools may do better for kids with 1200.

Today we simply use college as a proxy for intelligence, so people just like to go to the highest rated college they can to be viewed as intelligent. What happens in the four years at the college is secondary.


> Today we simply use college as a proxy for intelligence, so people just like to go to the highest rated college they can to be viewed as intelligent.

Hmmm… I would say college is a proxy for social currency, of which intelligence is one type. In most cases, intelligence is the least valuable (imho).


> There is nothing wrong with going to school to obtain knowledge and skills to secure a job.

That can't be the only goal. We also need to transmit culture, values, and teach them to become citizens.


Teach them "values" as determined by a central governing authority?

Yes, within a reason. Not in an authoritarian or dismissive manner. But the ideals of our western liberal societies.

What happens if that centeal authority becoms subverted (as many people here would argue is the case right now)?

Doesnt that single point of failure indicate a weakness?


Values are your culture. The Nazis were elected and supported (at least initially) so you are right some what, but the answer is multiple countries.

But a country without a culture and without shared values is a sled being pulled by dogs in different directions and not a real team (as many people would argue has been the case for quite some time).

You need common values to work together to achieve goals. That's what a country is, people working together. When you don't, you just become tenants with passports.


you dont need 4-10 years of post-secondary school at 100k/yr to do that.

nor do our current institutions do a good job of what you describe.


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