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Forcing the existence of a new jewish state has created, as expected, a permanent political fissure in the area. This is just dumb ideas piling up upon one another.

> Forcing the existence of a new jewish state has created, as expected, a permanent political fissure in the area.

No, forcing the existence of a new aggressively expansionist jewish state did that.


There is no other kind of state an external power can force into existing.

Mind you Israel was the one that supported the partition plan in 1948. The expansion came from the other side who wanted it all

Remind me, what was in Ben gurions private coorespendece?

Plans for ethnic cleansing Palestinians were being drawn up in the 1930s. No idea what you are talking about

That sweet koolaid taste, how could one resist?

...They really ahouldn't have, and I wonder how this will affect all the big AI IPOs. After all, Meta is one of the big players in the space. Surely if they can't do it right, then...


That’s the part I keep thinking about with this story: they have spent over $200 billion dollars on AI and achieved this.

Your mind is very much tethered in reality, and your decisionmaking depends on your various inputs, outputs and their consequences. Reducing all inputs to one (text) and all outputs to one (text) is a reduction of all possible ability to perceive and act and thus a reduction of the ability to think.

Multimodal does not change this significantly, considering that nothing is tied to real consequences.


Is this fraud? Contract forgery?

Is that really true regarding what we know of WW2? I thought their designs had major flaws, not just the goldplating issues you mention. Besides, they mostly lost because they spend all their manpower and material on pointless incursions far away from their country.

German tank and aircraft design and logistics had their own issues that made things worse, but largely, the biggest issue was just not being capable of keeping up with American manufacturing and Russian willingness to throw bodies at the fight.

Just for context Allied tank production was 276k to the axis 67k. Most other production categories show similar ratios. Your tanks can be perfectly reliable, and superior in every way, but it will be hard to win a fight when you are outnumbered 4:1.

Even now, the emerging doctrine from Ukraine, and now Iran, is to fight using asymmetric production advantages. Ukraine is taking out multimillion dollar facilities and ships with five figure UAVs. Iran has depleted US air defense stocks costing billions with a few million dollars worth of drones powered by motorcycle engines.


Exactly. Iran is beating us with balsa wood (paper airplane) drones. We're outspending them, but they can produce them faster and cheaper. We have to spend hundreds of thousands/millions per drone and missile. They are producing them for a fraction of that. We're being sold an expensive military industrial complex that actually is going to fail when put to the test of reality.

"Russian willingness to throw bodies at the fight."

Russia also build some tanks while being invaded, ~90k at the end of the war outcompeting german output at 3:1 (I suppose they are included in your allied 276k number?)


with the help of US industrial advisors who helped them set up factories / production lines.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrclztGCg6M is a decent watch, though really only tells the "US out produced everyone" part of the WWII story.

I recall seeing a better article that talked about WWII tank production but I can't find it right now.


The USSR was also able to protect most of their factories from bombing raids by moving them to the Urals. Germany and Japan never had that luxury.

Wars between great powers are won and lost on manufacturing base. The classic book on this topic is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rise_and_Fall_of_the_Great...

Same goes for logistics, which is an extension to your point:

https://walton.uark.edu/clc/posts/when-supply-chain-is-the-b...


Hm, is this still true in the age of nukes?

Would Russia/China/US not use their nukes if in risk of being overrun by conventional forces of another superpower?


It's true my abiding thought after reading the book was what about nuclear weapons. The great powers would absolutely use their nukes if in danger of being overrun, and I think long before that, in a total war.

yep... other factors do matter in determining the length of the war, whether the manufacturing base can be defended / get the raw materials it needs, etc. The enigma machine is estimated to have reduced WWII by a few years.

but there's really no winning when the enemy can put more planes, tanks, guns, boats and troops than you by a large factor, if they are even somewhat competent at using them.


It is and isn't. I think even if the germans had switched to making mass quantities of Sherman or T42 style tanks, it would have failed because they had shortages things like labor and fuel. The allies essentially had huge industrial bases in the US and Russia that were safe from the threats of bombing and attacks. The entire German supply chain from the factories to field repair sites were constantly being attacked.

> Besides, they mostly lost because they spend all their manpower and material on pointless incursions far away from their country.

If I'm not mistaken, one of the factors behind their Eastern Front collapsing was how their tanks suffered major design flaws, from failing to start in cold weather and their electrical components being vulnerable to rodents.

Also, their inability to mass produce their tanks is a critical design flaw.


"Besides, they mostly lost because they spend all their manpower and material on pointless incursions far away from their country."

The whole point of the war for the Nazis was to conquer new land in the east (and destroy the bolshewists). They initially did not wanted to have war with UK or France or US. They wanted to fight with them against the inferiors. It was a racist war - the aryans against the slavs - to establish the right place for the aryans as rulers (it was also not so much about "german", it was about race).

Also it was not just the US fighting and winning against them - I believe there was another power to first capture Berlin (that also was good at mass producing).

And technically it was mixed. Some german designs were quite good, reliable and mass producible, others overcomplicated and too heavy. I doubt the war can be reduced to this question, nazi germany had enough weapons and its war industry was working full power, it was just so stupid to get itself into a war on all fronts (and for example declare war on the US in solidarity with Japan, but did not demand Japan to declare war on soviet untion in return).


> I believe there was another power to first capture Berlin (that also was good at mass producing).

US sent tons of war material to the USSR as well as experts to help them get their manufacturing up and running. The success on the eastern front was partially due to US support. I just saw a video claiming something like 2/3 of vehicles the Russians used were made in the US.

also as far as who was first to capture Berlin... pretty sure the western front commanders decided/were ordered to slow down and let the USSR get some parts of Germany for themselves.


The USSR had already reached Oder (less than 70 km from Berlin) around the time the Battle of the Bulge ended. They stopped there for over two months to regroup and to secure their flanks, rather than advancing on relatively undefended Berlin. While taking the capital early would have been a symbolic victory, the Soviets didn't believe it would be enough to end the war at that point.

"I just saw a video claiming something like 2/3 of vehicles the Russians used were made in the US."

Considering that 90 000 tanks were produced in russia alone, I really doubt those numbers, as it would mean Russia would have had 270 000 tanks on their own.


Vehicles, not only tanks. For instance, the mobility of the Red Army relied on Studebaker trucks. The US delivered about 115 000 of them. In total, including other types of vehicles like Jeeps, the USSR received about 400 000 vehicles.

Roughly 50-65% of Red Army's transport pool was US-made.


Yep that. Definitely far less share of tanks. Not sure if the red army had any American made tanks, I've never heard that talked about.

They have seen French and Brits also as not-aryans. Below aryans, above slavic.

The western front was a choice, not something they did not wanted to do.


Which is hilarious given that calling Germanics "Aryans" (i.e., Indo-Iranians) makes no sense, while Slavs are just as closely related to Indo-Iranians as the Germanics (as another sister lineage from the Proto-Indo-European-derived Corded Ware culture).

"They have seen French and Brits also as not-aryans"

Not so simple, they also divided the german population by aryan and non aryan tried to "improve" by breeding programms (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensborn) and well hunting down all "inferior jews" and less so other people like sinti and roma.

And it is pretty established that Hitler wanted the UK as ally (who have been pretty racist at the time as well).

See also the flight of Rudolf Heß, which he did to make a favor to Hitler. (pretty interesting story, showing the delusion of the whole thing)


I mean sure, it was about race, not about passport. German Jews were not seen as of german race. None of that contradicts what I said.

Hitler wanted UK as ally, just like he wanted Russians as allies as step 1. The plan was not to treat them as equals in step 2. UK jist was not dumb to fall into that trap.

Rudolf Heß was his initiative and attempt to avoid war, he was very much in minority.


"The plan was not to treat them as equals "

I think the honest plan was to accept UK as sea power and germany as the mainland power. Later .. open how things developed.

See also

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joachim_von_Ribbentrop

"I mean sure, it was about race, not about passport. "

But we agree it seems. I was just arguing against the common missconception of trying to understand the Nazis as Ultra-nationalists, while they were mainly thinking in racial terms. Not germany should have ruled the world, but the Aryans. (With germany at it's heart, but that was more a side point)


A parallel mistake is the widespread belief taught in schools that the essence of the Nazi ideology was anti-Semitism, rather than anti-Communism.

I mean sure, the Eastern Front absorbed the vast majority of German manpower and materiel. But the conquest of Eastern Europe and European Russia was a central component of Hitler's ideology, so from his point of view at least it wasn't "pointless".

I expect it to be catastrophic or at least chaotic and we have removed our investments from the american market and untied ourselves from the dollar as best as we can. We are sitting this one out.

> instant gratification

I'm with you. I don't understand why it affects some people more than others. To me, using AI triggered my sense for drugs and addiction after a while: when your first association for an engineering product is "it feels _great_!" then run, it's just cocaine with extra components.

A tool should not make you feel good, just accomplish the task.


ADHD might be in play, and I think it‘s undiagnosed by more people than we assume. And it‘s fine, because as long as you can deal with it, it‘s not an issue. I can imagine that the addiction to LLM hits the same areas as addiction to, say, gambling, binge eating or shopping. I wrote a small thing about it here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48081469


So is ADHD also to blame for "being addicted" to driving instead of walking?

What about using a sewing machine instead of hand-sewing?

Washing machines instead of hand-washing? (Some people still swear by air-drying instead of using a dryer, but there aren't that many "hand-washing is just better" holdouts, even if it might be true!)

Note that in all of these cases, you ALWAYS grin when you first use the more automated thing after having done the manual thing, and you ALWAYS lose something by going the faster/less-laborious route. If people are simply hyperfocusing on what is lost when you lean on LLM for coding, then they're simply going to miss the train (yet another invention that superseded walking and horseback-riding, with its own set of tradeoffs!)

We all know a walk is good on its own terms even if a car is faster, but if your goal is to get from point A to B in less than a certain amount of time, sometimes only a car will do. Hand-washing probably is less wear-and-tear on the clothes and lets you focus on dirty spots. Air-drying leads to fresher-smelling clothes that don't shrink. And hand-coding leads to a more curated solution than an LLM ever could... All of these at a comparatively extreme extra time or labor cost.


I was giving OP an answer to their question, as to why the "instant gratification" loop from AI is triggered by some people more than others. It's not about the grin, it's about the "not being in control, and not being able to stop". And if it's only the grin - yeah, hyperfocus is also something that neurodiverse brains have. Not sure what triggered your reply specifically, but I think it is worth stating that there is nothing bad about it, as long as it doesn't become an issue. Different brains work differently. It's just a fact we should accept.

on "a tool should not make you feel good"

I never thought I'd actually see an anti-joy argument being used in all seriousness, but welcome to 2026!

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48413983

Thoughts on that, then?


funny speculative question: psychosis is evidently a gradient. Does AI just highlight latent general psychosis (i.e. in the simplified interpretation of a worldview shaped more by unchecked belief and fantasy than observation) in otherwise largely functional people?

What if the problem is that we train people too much to take things that are being said at face value without questioning/observing them, increasing the psychosis problem?


Everyone is susceptible to addictions or psychosis to some degree.

What matters is when the stimulus presented exceeds their resistance.

Extended AI use is a highly attractive stimulus that exceeds most people's resistance, especially when sycophantically interacted with in an echo chamber (human-AI, with no other humans in the room).

So yes, it's dangerous in the same way that cigarettes and social media are.

Just because some people can avoid slipping into it, doesn't mean we should ignore population-as-a-whole outcomes.


Splitting hairs in bad faith is not constructive to the points being made here.

True, but I actually had no idea that it was the soft parts rather than the hard parts that had been fossilized. (I haven’t verified it yet.) Either way, it didn’t read like a bad faith interpretation/comment.

It wasn't written to be one. If the author went to the trouble of making a 3D space filled with many shells, knowing the actual shell was most likely a different shape would be something they would probably want to know, so the position of their fossil could be placed more accurately in the graphed space.

No, a layperson doing a bunch of math but barking up the wrong tree theory-wise is actually super instructive for this forum of autodidacts.

And I say that as one of the autodidacts.


Reads to me like a fascinating and relevant distinction.

how is that splitting hairs? it’s an actual interesting point

Don't worry, this is just humanity being too far up their own arse and conflating the map with the territory. Speech is a serialisation format, not the foundation of thought. Thus I think that any speech-first approach is inherently misguided. Speech must be a side effect.

There is a lot of research that suggests otherwise might be true for humans.

I think that can only happen to empire cultures: they only learn one language, and suddenly people think that's all there is. I speak five languages, my wife seven. Language synthesis is a feature, not the entire product, in my experience. Btw, this is only the third best language I can speak/write in. I didn't use AI, autocomplete, spell check, or a dictionary to construct any of my posts. All typos and imperfect grammar are perfectly organicly sourced.

edit: I just remembered, don't we have tons of research suggesting that at least birds, whales and apes/monkeys use words and simple syntax? didn't we teach a few gorillas sign language/symbols?


As counter argument proposal; we should look into studies of children deprived of language until later in life. I have a dim memory of reading that one of these people never mastered complex language constructs. I could be that language and other cultural artifacts provide an "operating system" of sorts for the brain that allow higher level thinking. ?? (conjecture here by a complete layman)

Doesn't really matter because internally your brain is speaking its own 'language' and you're just translating without conscious thought.

Five languages is impressive no doubt but as a dual language speaker myself, thought still takes the form of language even if it lacks words.


Weird thing to brag about here, assuming it's even true. Furthermore, the "empire cultures" thing is clearly false since most researchers and other professionals in this field speak at least two or three languages. This is a global endeavor, not some pet project of a single language or culture.

And the power of "language models" (or any sort of deep learning, really), does not come from assuming that some specific input-output modality, like English text, is the ultimate foundation of thought. Strong versions of this claim were laid to rest around the time when GPT-2 came out. I'd also go further and argue that many people working on the symbolic AI of yesteryear already understood this as well.


The data seem to indicate just the opposite.

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