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"The Axiom of Choice is obviously true, the well-ordering principle obviously false, and who can tell about Zorn's lemma?" — Jerry Bona

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JadeNB 4 days ago | link

I wonder if there's a 'Godwin's Law'-analogue for this quote [1]. It's one of the first things that I thought when I saw the article, and we're not the only ones: emilion thought of it, too (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7992318).

[1] To be fair, Godwin's Law is not quite the right comparison: unlike references to Nazis, I think that this quote actually does contribute something to the discussion, by succinctly describing an interesting consequence of trying to decide if axioms are 'really true' (obvious / intuitive / whatever).

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quarterto 13 days ago | link | parent | on: The new bower.io

> bower manages your script tags in the html file

no, it doesn't. bower has nothing to do with module loading.

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hcho 13 days ago | link

you are technically right. It's the grunt bowerInstall.

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abritishguy 13 days ago | link

FTFY:you are right

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quarterto 13 days ago | link | parent | on: The new bower.io

Actually, pretty much everything except the site design has changed: http://web.archive.org/web/20140517000522/http://bower.io/

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callum85 13 days ago | link

Pretty much everything? What exactly? I can't see much different

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quarterto 13 days ago | link

They've restructured the entire site. Before, it was a single page; now, there are separate pages for configuration, API, etc..

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recursive 13 days ago | link

Off the top of my head, this is new: "Bower requires Node and npm and Git."

I remember thinking it was very odd that the old version of the site said that bower had no dependencies.

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quarterto 13 days ago | link | parent | on: The new bower.io

Dependencies. For example, Backbone depends on Underscore, and simply writing <script src="underscore.js"/><script src="backbone.js"/> encodes nothing about that fact. There's nothing stopping you updating Backbone to say a 2.0 that requires features in Underscore 2.0, but forgetting to update Underscore. On the other hand, bower update backbone will see dependencies: {"underscore": "^2.0"} in bower.js and update Underscore as well.

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sphildreth 13 days ago | link

Is it something like NuGet for .NET packages but for Javascript? Does that mean that an ASP.NET MVC application using NuGet wouldn't really have any "need" for Bower?

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atonse 13 days ago | link

It's similar but for you to not "need" bower but get the same from NuGet, you'd have to make sure that every JS library you need is on NuGet.

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More like the stereotypes are self-reinforcing via society, and this result (research is too strong a word) just reflects the cultural expectation ⇄ stereotype feedback loop.

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Pinta[0] is a decent Paint.NET-inspired Linux image editor.

[0]: http://pinta-project.com/

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My God, you'd think this were a news site, run by a startup accelerator, that used to be called Startup News!

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NoodleIncident 15 days ago | link

What's your motivation for making this comment? Do you actually think that this approach will change anyone's opinion on a subject you (clearly) feel very strongly about? Or are you just trying to post what you think the most passers-by will agree with, as loudly and as noticeably as possible?

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liquidise 15 days ago | link

As an aforementioned passerby, i laughed audibly when i read his comment. Then the irony of you calling out his sarcasm instead of the OP's comment slamming startup news was itself refreshing. Well done.

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Wow, the Alps appear to be going through the apocalypse.

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Protip: append ?share=1 to the URL.

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Unity 8 uses QML for the shell itself but the applications will still be in GTK. And Lubuntu pushed back shipping LXQT until at least 15.04.

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air 17 days ago | link

"Unity 8 uses QML for the shell itself but the applications will still be in GTK."

I think GTK will be just for legacy/3rd party applications and new stuff by Canonical will be Qt based.

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abhinavk 17 days ago | link

According to develop.ubuntu.com, Ubuntu SDK allows two types of apps. Native (QML) and HTML5. I don't see GTK+ written anywhere.

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