Hacker Newsnew | comments | show | ask | jobs | submit | msgilligan's comments login

Isn't this Breaking Bad? The friend being Walter White?

-----


I started to read this article and saw no mention of Sarbanes-Oxley. I searched for 'Sarbanes' and 'SOX'. How old is Farad Manjoo? How old is his editor? Or does this cluelessness come from the filter bubble of working for the New York Times?

-----


That's a great point. I wish everything written by Farhad had a warning label on it for gross stupidity.

Sarb-Ox is clearly a big deal. However the bigger challenge facing these "stay private" companies is their massive need for cash. Traditionally, private companies generate a lot of positive cash flow which they use to support debt loads from either banks or the bond markets. These companies are starting to access the debt markets (witness Uber's large LOC and recent convert issuance) but without the cash flow to back up that debt. This will become an issue, because as of yet there is no private market for equity capital to be used to pay off debt at par - private equity and VC investors are not in that business as they have time-limited funds which need to produce positive cash returns in 7 - 10 years to pay back the LPs... The public markets represent the largest pool of permanent capital out there so unless the Unicorns stop bleeding cash they will have to come to the public markets eventually.

AMZN seems like the best possible outcome for these companies.

-----


He's 37, in case you're really wondering. I do find it funny that he wrote a book called "True Enough: Learning to Live in a Post-Fact Society" :)

-----


Here is his response: https://twitter.com/fmanjoo/status/616624526374256640 : "@seligerj a whole article about a complex issue and no mention of my pet interest that is just of many factors in the discussion!!!!??" Does anyone have good data / sources on the role of SarBox?

-----


OK, that answers a few questions. It's not ignorance, it's bias.

-----


It's either uninformed or a hit piece, if it doesn't cite SOX as the main cause. Either way adds nothing to the general public understanding.

-----


I worked in COBOL in the early 80s and despite its bad reputation, I found it was well-suited for the tasks I was asked to perform with it. (Compared to the other languages I knew at the time: C, BASIC, Fortran and Pascal)

Interestingly, the thing I liked best about COBOL was the PIC clause, which was actually a notation for formatted output. It beat the hell out of printf, that's for sure.

-----


You might want to take a look at the Grails Migration Plugin (which uses Hibernate and Liquibase "under the covers")

It allows you to write your domain classes in a Groovy DSL, called GORM http://grails.github.io/grails-doc/latest/guide/GORM.html and generate SQL and SQL migrations as you change your classes.

Here's the Getting Started page from the documentation http://grails-plugins.github.io/grails-database-migration/do...

There is a standalone GORM that allows you to use the Groovy DSL without Grails, I'm not sure how the Migration plugin could be made to work with that.

-----


Thanks! I'll take a look at that.

-----


If the lengths are wrong. You said that the function shouldn't assume that strings are null-terminated correctly -- why should it assume that the lengths are correct?

-----


They are mostly Europeans and it is late Saturday night, so I'd cut them some slack. I'll post on Twitter and see if they can respond when the wake up on Sunday.

-----


No, I mean I don't recall seeing them ever.

-----


Two of the despots posted something under their own names 2 yrs ago. I think, though, that one of the Pivotal employees frequently posts under various different usernames.

-----


Guess I am one of the ones from 2 yrs ago, even though I am not aware this has already been 2 yrs. I thought last time was already last year... well, I can be easily mistaken. But I really wonder what those Pivotal accounts are supposed to be. Could be a reason to talk with some people if I had details

-----


You can check chronological comments from a certain user at, say, https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=blackdrag or https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=glaforge . I was just answering someone else's query when I mentioned that.

Most users on Hacker News use pseudonyms to better avoid the problems possible with having an online presence anywhere, though not all of us can be bothered. I suspect one regular commenter here, though, is associated with the Groovy/Grails developers at Pivotal.

-----


I'm a Groovy user and I find that the Groovy developers -- who mostly work for Pivotal and host the project on Codehaus -- do a good job of communicating their roadmap and proposed features.

2.4 is a surprise to me. but a pleasant surprise and likely a release enabled by an unexpected breakthrough by Cedric Champeau.

-----


Here is Cedric Champeau's blog post "Groovy on Android" which contains the slides to his presentation: http://melix.github.io/blog/2014/06/grooid.html

Work towards running Groovy on Android has been going on for years, but with this new PR <https://github.com/groovy/groovy-core/pull/436> and the (unofficial?) announcement of Groovy 2.4 it looks like it's finally here.

-----


Champeau didn't say anything about performance. Last year Laforge said it took 20 secs to startup a simple Hello World program [1]. Is performance now better?

[1] http://groovy.codehaus.org/GSoC+2013

-----


I'm an iOS user/developer and Groovy developer that's thinking about dabbling with Android. I haven't tried it yet, but I know they've done a lot of performance work in the last year.

There's an app in the Google Play store that you can try out: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.champeau.gr...

-----


I was at Cédric's talk at GR8Conf and he spoke about the performance and the memory footprint. Using @CompileStatic the performance is like a Java native application and the memory consumption is about the same.

I suggest you that keep an eye on the gr8conf web page and see the talk when is published.

-----


The horribly-named HATEOAS is one possible solution: http://timelessrepo.com/haters-gonna-hateoas

-----


Maybe, if the library support is there. Right now HATEOAS seems to mean replacing your domain-specific action tags with boilerplatey <link rel=...> and not a lot else.

-----


Yes, if HATEOAS were actually done, all you'd need to do is have libraries for handling the content types used in the API, and with a suitable generic client library everything else would come for free.

But virtually no one does that with their APIs, and virtually no one builds client libraries on the assumption that services will do that, so there's something of a chicken-and-egg problem.

-----


Techcrunch took the article down.

It is now available here: http://letstalkbitcoin.com/maidsafe-wildly-successful-crypto...

-----

More

Guidelines | FAQ | Support | API | Security | Lists | Bookmarklet | DMCA | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: