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It's interesting that this article didn't mention Gopher, which was developed at the University of Minnesota. Jean Amour Polly would have definitely known about it, as back then the Gopher Team was all about creating Digital Libraries.

And Mark McCahill was a ardent Windsurfer, which resulted in this shirt, designed by his partner Wendy Jedeckila, way back in 1991!

https://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/10274778...


If you look up her guide on project Gutenberg, there are references to Gopher. It's nostalgic to see "WorldWideWeb" getting a brief mention as as another service that you can try out.

https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/49


And here I am just waiting for the revival of Hyper-G :-D

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/220349551_The_Hyper...


Also read about the saga of creating the Keyboardio 01:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/keyboardio/the-model-01...

They went through hell to get it manufactured. Shady companies, the whole nine yards!


Quick plug for one of my favorite podcasts right now that had an episode with the Keyboardio creator and their current struggle with the chip shortage[0]. Highly recommended listening!

[0]https://techpod.content.town/episodes/97-how-to-survive-the-...


Hi, I'm Jesse. I'm 1/2 of Keyboardio. We have, indeed, been through some stuff, but don't let that scare you off of hardware. We're currently in manufacturing for our third keyboard product.

We're generally pretty happy to chat with first-time hardware founders. Feel free to drop me a note at jesse@keyboard.io.


One thing that someone might consider is working with Data Portability laws to allow for export of user contributed data to corporate map platforms.

I'd like to add my Google Maps contributions to OSM

I'm a Level 7 local guide there and was an active user of MapMaker back in the day..


Which sort of contributions would you like to copy from Google Maps to OSM?

If you personally surveyed these places you can go to OpenStreetMap.org, sign in and then you can add your changes - OSM may already have the info so a straight import wouldn't be possible.

Make sure not to copy any of Google's details to OSM that you didn't personally survey as that would violate copyright.

Please reach out to me if you'd like a hand with getting started mapping on OSM :)


Wrong answer.. This effort does not scale. You want to make it such that facts added by anyone can be easily imported with a simple opt-in.

GDPR data portability could be expanded to include defined formats for export so that import can be done in an automated fashion.


> Wrong answer..

That comment doesn't provide any value.

> You want to make it such that facts added by anyone can be easily imported with a simple opt-in.

OpenStreetMap is much larger than just me or one company.

> GDPR data portability could be expanded to include defined formats for export so that import can be done in an automated fashion.

Imports are not an easy problem - how do you deal with conflicts? How to verify which data is more accurate?

Imports are supported, and there is a detailed process for them to make sure OpenStreetMap stays well maintained: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines


Google map reviews is the only thing keeping me from OSM based maps. I love to explore, take photos and review places. OsmAnd has some review functionality but it's very barebones unfortunately.


hi5 (RIP) was originally a dating site and Pivoted to a Social Network.

Most profiles fake? I can say for sure that's not true. I maintained Postgres/Memcache/Graph DBs and the write load was real.

That said hi5 did engage in address book scraping and other dark patterns that you'd rather not see these days.

Fun fact: hi5 had a featured photos/profiles section based on popularity. Folks that ended up there deleted their account by 5x or more due to the unwanted attention their 'popular' photos garnered....


If that is the case then it was very poorly thought out. Am I interested in dating people that live in another hemisphere? no.


So many thoughts about OpenSocial and the reference implementation, Shindig. I have it thank for my time at hi5, LinkedIn and then Google.

Some little known facts about OpenSocial

- Hangouts Apps (remember those?) were based on OpenSocial containers.

- OpenSocial powered the LinkedIn Apps Platform and Labs for a number of years. The team built Rails and Node apps and deployed on Joyent.

- Eric Schmidt gave a pep talk to the working group pre-launch and mentioned about how open always wins in the end...

- MySpace was concerned about the attack surface of 3p apps running in iframes. They toyed with the idea of requiring a webkit browser plugin to run apps (!). It did lead to Caja* as a project. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caja_project

- The work on OpenSocial led in small part to the Activity Streams spec which led to ActivityPub and thus the latest Fediverse protocols. I like to think of OpenSocial as dead, but a good organ donor.

Fun times...


Amusingly a lot of the concerns about embedding applications in other web applications have finally been mostly covered by the browsers adding the capability to sandbox iframes. We used Caja at Yahoo but it was a nightmare at the time.

https://www.html5rocks.com/en/tutorials/security/sandboxed-i...


Hey Paul/Ben-

Always enjoyed working with you both, and sitting on panels teaching. Small world, I'm back working with Dave Recordon again.

I'd love for all the hard work that was left on the table to get resurrected, I continued to work in Caja-style JS sandboxing for a few years after OpenSocial.

Cheers, :max


Hey Paul, long time - I enjoyed working with you on OpenSocial stuff back in the day when I was at MySpace.


I remember working on 5 different apps on the LinkedIn homepage, was great working with you Paul!


This is a lot of history crammed into an hour. Goes from the early code-breaking work and the development of Drum Memory at Engineering Research Associates.

ERA merged with Sperry/Univac/Remington and then begat Control Data, Cray, Unisys and many others.

Also tune in for some history of the Oregon Trail by Minnesota Educational Computing Consortium (MECC) and how that ties into the rise of Internet Gopher.

Oh and disclaimer: former Gopher Dude here.


Bandcamp is good if you know what you want and they do pay out really, really well.

If you want a streaming service more like Spotify you might also check out Resonate Cooperative https://resonate.is/ which has a stream-to-own model.

Discovering new music is low cost, repeated listens double until the ninth, upon which you own the track outright. You can then download or stream that track for free.

Still ramping up but I'm excited about their prospects.


Awesome idea - do they have more than a couple of artists though?

Personally I like a distinction between looking for music and having it DRM-free offline on my hard drive.


Still early days -- only 2300 artists on 296 labels so far; but growing. It fits somewhere between Soundcloud, Bandcamp and Spotify.

https://resonate.is/in-the-details/status/


That's a brilliant idea and a reasonable way to stream and own music IMO.

Already signed up.


If you want some more depth to the Californian Ideology critique consider watching the Adam Curtis documentary "All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Watched_Over_by_Machines_o...

Hypernormalisation also covers some of the same ideas and is more recent.

https://archive.org/details/HyperNormalisation


The episodes are on Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/groups/96331/videos/80799353

It's definitely worth watching for anyone interesting in the history of early Silicon Valley.


No one has mentioned https://liberapay.com/ ?

They seem to deal with this problem by letting you fund a donation account and then disburse funds on a periodic basis. This is also similar to donor advised funds so I'm not sure why Patreon is doing this when other alternatives are available.


I just cancelled my two pledges on Patreon, and migrated them to Liberapay.

The process was surprisingly smooth and easy. We'll see how it works on the long run, but for now Liberapay looks like an excellent alternative. (Also they don't take automatic fees for their own finances; tip is on a voluntary basis).


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