https://aider.chat/docs/leaderboards/ your experience doesn't align with my experience or this benchmark. o1 pro is good but I would rather do 20 cycles on gemini 2.5 rather than wait for Pro to return.
The switching costs are so low (zero) that anyone using these models just jumps to the best performer. I also agree that this is not a brand or narrative sensitive project.
I think an API would be fantastic for use cases like Aider / SWE agents. The primary issue besides fully understanding the code base is having up-to-date knowledge on libraries and packages. Perplexity has "online" models. And phind with Claude, GTP-4o, Phind 70 + search / rag would be awesome.
this is mainly to prolong time on site / impressions that can be served. of course 98% of the banners on those pages are served by doubleclick (google) and thus google makes more money, the crappier the page.
> A recipe is a statement of the ingredients and procedure required for making a dish of food. A mere
listing of ingredients or contents, or a simple set of directions, is uncopyrightable. As a result, the Office cannot register recipes consisting of a set of ingredients and a process for preparing a dish. In contrast, a recipe that creatively explains or depicts how or why to perform a particular activity may be copyrightable. A registration for a recipe may cover the written description or explanation of a process that appears in the work, as well as any photographs or illustrations that are owned by the applicant. However, the registration will not cover the list of ingredients that appear in each recipe, the underlying process for making the dish, or the resulting dish itself. The registration will also not cover the activities described in the work that are procedures, processes, or methods of operation, which are not subject to copyright protection.
Recipes were an easy way to avoid some copyright claims. Copy the list of ingredients, and write a paragraph about how your grandmother made it from a secret recipe that turned out to be on the back of the box.
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I can still think of content farms and the 2010s and the sheer bulk of junk they produced.
> The former “content creator” — that’s what Demand CEO Richard Rosenblatt calls his freelance contributors — asked to be identified only as a working journalist for fear of “embarrassing” her current employer with her content farm-hand past. She began working for Demand in 2008, a year after graduating with honors from a prestigious journalism program. It was simply a way for her to make some easy money. In addition to working as a barista and freelance journalist, she wrote two or three posts a week for Demand on “anything that I could remotely punch out quickly.”
> The articles she wrote — all of which were selected from an algorithmically generated list — included How to Wear a Sweater Vest” and How to Massage a Dog That Is Emotionally Stressed,” even though she would never willingly don a sweater vest and has never owned a dog.
> “Never trust anything you read on eHow.com,” she said, referring to one of Demand Media’s high-traffic websites, on which most of her clips appeared.
There is some work with zero shot (decoder only) time series predictions by google and an open source variant. Curious to see how these approaches stack up as they are explored.
I have found just using it in the web interface comperable to OpenAI. But the context window makes a huge difference. I can dump alot more files in ( entire schema, sample records etc)
Appreciate the feedback. We launched our pricing plan this week after being in private beta with a different pricing strategy. We did chat with our private beta users about what would be important to them but are very open to change pricing over time based on feedback from the community. Keep in mind we're providing more than just the execution of actions i.e. offering a visual development environment, an integrated Postgres database, instant deployment, and hosting as part of the package. That being said, we certainly see the need for a competitive pricing strategy and will reassess our rates.
As others have already said, you can get millions of executions of serverless functions for literal pennies on other platforms.
These serverless platforms already tend to cost A LOT more than running traditional servers, but your offering is 200,000 times pricier than an already costly option.
One thing to note here is that those traditional providers charge per request, while your product is priced on actions, which are blocks in the request flow. Realistically, any non-basic API will have several blocks for each request, thus considerably inflating your numbers.
To put things in perspective here, 1 Req/s is 2.5M Req/Mo which is already over your highest plan, and while it may be a considerable amount of volume for a medium app, it’s still something you could run on a $5 VPS and have 99% of your CPU sitting idle. For your proposed pricing, you could literally deploy tens or hundreds of dedicated servers around the world for each client that signs up and still end up being ridiculously overpriced.
As another example, given the current Reddit debacle, we know that an average user of theirs makes ~380 API Req/day. This means that 175 users would saturate the 2M actions in your highest Team plan. How would you justify 30.000$ for 175 MAU?
If these prices are somehow based on your costs for hosting the API you seriously need to rethink your internal efficiency
That said, I like the style and concept of the product, but there are still too many missing features, especially to justify a price that’s many orders of magnitude higher than anyone else.
As a point of comparison - cloudflare workers costs 0.30$ for the same (2 million) requests, plus a 5$ monthly fee. If my math is correct, in their eyes the visual aspect is worth 100,000x as much?
edit: it's actually 200,000x, the cloudflare base fee includes 1 million requests. Is it possible that they added an extra couple zeros?
I also was surprised about the pricing. But it's getting a bit better if you check the FAQ. They basically dont charge for "basic" actions and 0.25 per db action. So if you just do some read and write to the db, its basically 0.25 per request.
Dont know why they hide it that crazy (usually its the other way around)...
In the end, is suspect none of these tools will be able to gatekeep hosting (especially with outrageous rates). The dev process is their key offering, not hosting. The moat on hosting will be nil, totally commoditized. If they were totally charitable, this would be an open source tool letting people export stuff.
Anybody could build that, and someone probably will.
I agree that the pricing for 2M actions is so high, that why even show it? But this doesn't seem like a typical use case for rapid prototyping, which is what this seems to be made for
