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Bloomberg did a good mini-doc on pfas 8 months back; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8qGtEVh7oQ

I suspect it might end up being an all or the above kind of situation, perhaps mixed in with transgenerational effects from atmospheric atomic tests and so forth (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCF7vPanrY, https://web.archive.org/web/20200507112343/https://www.cdc.g..., & https://www.americanscientist.org/article/fallout-from-nucle...)


the reason I post it is because I want to see the talent of HN dive around the data. I suspect there is a bias some where. Perhaps the conservative religious are coming from wealthier families so perhaps a inequality issue. Perhaps an issue of internet use akin to Haidt's thesis but I'm skeptical of Haidt as I am with anyone who sort of enters the pop culture sphere of dialogue. He might note of a problem but there may be other reasons for the problem etc. We can't ever dive into that further because such discussions get flagged before even taking off. HN beyond reddit and others I feel have a better intellect to consider such data.


That title alone is almost certain to result in a pissing match and virtue signalling regardless of where you post it, anyone actually interested in deeper discussion is probably going to skip the thread. Find a well done study that is more about exploring the idea than the conclusion and you might get better results. But measuring happiness is not really possible, it is subjective and personal and often heavily influenced by community; I have done everything my community represents as happiness so clearly I am happy. Are you? The bulk of life is not happy fun times so is anyone actually happy? or when we say we are happy are we just saying that the desire to give up is infrequent and fleeting?


I only go with the title of the article. So far there have been some good comments. I'm not here to be part of the discussion. Only give the reason why I posted and also why I did not change the title.


a concern I'm looking into for a private project (I use hn as a link saver) is fireworks impact on birds. specifically interested in songbirds. however i dont think its a key component in their decline (https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aaw1313) it is just a side issue to consider that perhaps there is something that can be done along side keeping domestic cats indoors and so forth. The key interest is overall the decline in songbirds and how this effects the tick population and thus lyme disease and other related illnesses. Perhaps banning fireworks would help, though it would be an uphill battle; yet probably easier than say banning neonicotinoids.


Interesting! I had never heard about that.


interestingly research on San Andreas fault and Salton sea was recently published in July noting of fill up relating to slip rate; https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-023-06058-9

Another study published for September looks further into the history of slip rate and fill up; https://doi.org/10.1016/j.epsl.2023.118271


Very interesting. Any estimates on how much water the Salton Sea might gain from this storm? How would it compare to historical levels? (Including those used in the earthquake modeling)


no idea, was hoping someone more in the know of the field would comment. one thing id ponder too is.. the time frame... how long say for fill up to slippage? i just link cause i had come across the study from a news story month back and it just one of those weird things almost akin to simulation where its like "of course this brings a lot of rain to the area"... hopefully its not enough to do much in that grand scheme of things and just enough to help with drought conditions ie hoping salt lake gets some of that rain too.


So is this saying that the more water is in the salton sea, the more earthquakes could take place?


washington post article is probably more straightforward, to quote

"The team created a computer model that simulated how a full lake affected the fault. They found high water levels in Lake Cahuilla prompted activity along the fault in two aspects. First, the weight of the lake water caused the crust beneath it to bend, unlocking the plates so they don’t touch as much. The lake water also seeped into the cracks and pores in Earth’s crust beneath it, increasing the fluid pressure inside the fault and further unclasping the plates."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/06/0...

* Sorry for formatting, not really my strength.


Thank you!


Hanson's idea (https://mason.gmu.edu/~rhanson/gamble.html) of a betting market for science could be an interesting model for journalism. Probably easier said than done.


it would be pretty cool to see netflix or amazon pick up the various forgotten stories of Wyndham, hell even some HP Lovecraft. Lately I've been buying up vintage books and vinyls to give to nephew as he enters the age of discovery so to speak. what I linked I just thought was too neat not to share. hope others enjoy it as much as I did.


The Chrysalids would be another choice of mine to be filmed - a post-apocalyptic coming of age drama.

I'm a big Lovecraft fan and have tried to watch as many of the video versions as possible, but most of the adaptations turn out to be fairly rubbish. Color Out of Space was good fun though. I think the best Lovecraftian films are not directly related and I'd recommend AM1200 as an excellent short that gives a really good Lovecraftian feel.


On my property I have both a well and a spring so that's what I generally use. Recent outing in the city reminded me of the chlorine they use. It was kind of an amusing episode as drinking the water at the restaurant I had sworn maybe the glasses weren't fully rinsed so the waitress brought out another and made sure it was clean.. still tasted of chlorine. So I had her fill my canister up thinking it was just a detergent they were using.. still tasted of chlorine so I presumed it must be the water and remembered that indeed chlorine/chloramine is added to public supplies. I don't know if that will prove to be a problem in the future and most things that claim to be are a bit on the tin foil hat tent that said a recent study does seem to show minimal impact on gut biome (https://doi.org/10.1038/s41564-022-01101-3) .. whether there is a compounding effect down line who knows.. but could explain some of the issues that differentiate between farm communities and urban dwellings (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-kidsallergies/amish-farm-...)


Chlorine is annoying but so is legionnaire disease (which can deadly) or a gastrointestinal infection.


Monochloramine, on the other hand, is barely perceptible at a couple ppm.

(It also produces less in the way of disinfection byproducts, which is good if the water contains anything that might react nastily with chlorine. And it’s much more persistent, which is good or bad depending on your perspective. You need to take special measures to remove it if you want to water a fish and potentially if you want to brew beer. As far as I can tell, it has no meaningful effect on an established sourdough starter. I assume that the large population of microbes in established starter is able to neutralize the small amounts of chloramine in tap water.)


Most wells these days go with uv, not sure if that handles that. Personally I don't bother, but I also pull from creeks and rivers nearby for more tainted water with the intention of exposure. Been doing it for decades now. Wouldn't recommend it. That said, uv might be a plausible answer (I know a few public wells where you pay to fill up which is treated with uv and is all they use).


UV works well but the problem is bacteria can build up in water lines. So you'd have to UV sterilize it at every tap point or at least every house. Chlorine is easier for this.


Makes sense, ie why there can be the centralize well water depots etc. I'm thankful that it's not something I have to rely on indeed.


Most people on well water (are recommended to) test once a year for bacteria, and don't bother with UV filters unless they need to, in my experience.


Chlorine will dissipate after a few hours. Put tap water in a pitcher and keep overnight in the fridge for a cold one later.


True AFAIK, but I would like to see some experimental results made accessible to laymen.


Well, it is a gas at room temperature. Might be a good science project for a student to confirm what we think we know. The taste of chlorine does dissipate and that was good enough for me.


I'm reminded of the Chris Hedge's mini-doc "American Psychosis", around minute two where he notes of puncturing the illusion and optimism as a disease: https://www.filmsforaction.org/watch/american-psychosis-chri...


summary article of welt article non-paywalled: https://regionalheute.de/stiko-mitglied-verlangt-herausgabe-...

apologies on the paywall, initially on my end it wasn't for whatever reason. I should have pdf'd it when I had a chance cause now all I get is the paywall too.

edit: opening up on google with translate should provide the translation.


if you have the article I'd be interested in reading it and saving to my collections. Another more updated book that covers a similar theme published in 2018 is Jerry Muller's Tyranny of Metrics.

1. https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691174952/th...


Actually, that might be it, lol. It was an article that sounds very much like that title.

If I can find it again, I will link it to you here.

Edit: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/317139233_The_Tyran...

Not "The article" in question, but definitely another good addition to the topic at hand. Also vaguely familiar to the article I read long ago, but this is newer.

My article I am thinking of came from back in the 2000's I think. I believe it was based on Tyranny of Numbers mostly.


thanks for the article, for the other article I'll scavenge scholar when time permits for that time range of an article on the subject.


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