There are a couple of reasons I think online job applications are so spammy:
1. Sometimes the companies don't adhere to the requirements they posted. For example the job post might list skills A, B, and C with a minimum of 3+ years, but some of my friends recommended that I apply anyway. I don't track such cases but I think I got a couple of responses when I did that.
2. Some companies leave job posts up after they've been filled, or ghost candidates during the interview process, so candidates tend to spam to ensure that even if a small fraction replied, they'd get at least one offer.
I'd assume that contacting hiring managers directly might lead to better chances, but aren't 200 other people doing the same?
Tech recruiter here with 8 years of experience running a recruitment agency and I have seen 1000s of people negotiating salary (in Switzerland).
I wouldn't never recommend doing what the author suggests, namely: "I’d prefer to discuss the details of the offer over e-mail."
The phone is always better. Busy business people such as recruiters prefer it. Especially, because nowadays everyone hides behind text. Only the phone or an in person meeting gives you the chance to really hear what is possible compensation-wise and then really get what you want.
My experience with recruiters on the phone has mostly been those recruiters pulling in one or two extra random people from their company on the call to hide behind as they try to lowball me with fifteen minutes of rambling about market conditions.
Dont talk about salary with recruiter. Demand to discuss your salary with person that is hiring you. They are looking to hire people, they have the say who gets hired and they decide on the number.
Talk to them not man in the middle that has no power. And person that will try everything to lowball you.
Tech recruiter here in Switzerland with ~10 years of experience: People quit their teams/bosses, rarely do they quit for other reasons, like compensation or brand.
I think FAANG employees don't quit over compensation or brand. But I think employees of more normal companies do. A lot. And there's a lot more of them.
Hum, our CEO said something along these lines at the last All Hands.
I don't really know where he got that... I always liked my coworkers and I had the chance to have consistently amazing managers, but I still left previous jobs because was bored to death or got a better opportunity career or money-wise.
There are definitely some types that only care about their colleagues and bosses (I talked to one in my team just recently), but that's probably not even the majority. These people probably tend to stay a loooong time so maybe they are more visible to the execs?
If you have EU passport (blue card not enough, really have to have a EU PASSPORT, like a Polish or German one) then Switzerland is easy to move to because it takes part in the "free movement of people" - if you want, send CV to the email in my handle and i hook you up with fitting firms.
Love this and it is true that trust is higher here, also lots of (high value) things are sold on tutti (ebay / fb marketplace of Switzerland), yet the country becomes increasingly a "normal" European country and trust decreases, also regarding salaries, self promotional plug: https://twitter.com/iwangulenko/status/1618865433108688896
The Amazon website is just pure and utter garbage. I seriously don't know why anyone can buy anything there. They would have to sell everything at least at halve the price for me even considering using them instead of Digitec. Amazon has little traction because Switzerland is small so they don't care, not as price sensitive as others and hence people don't like to torment themselves just to save a few bucks.
and even today it can never be done right
because SOME resumes are just so f** up.