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There is a (probably not entirely legal) consumer solution: http://unvis.it

"What the tool does is to try to capture the content of an article or blog post without passing on your visit as a pageview. Effectively this means that you're not paying with your attention, so you can read and share the idiocy that it contains."

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Isn't this just pushing the problem away from us? The problem being: Why do I still click on an article even if I know it will not be worth my time, attention and energy in any way.

"Effectively this means that you're not paying with your attention". I don't see how this is true. The owner of the website might just think I don't pay with my attention. But I did.

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> probably not entirely legal

Everything can be made either legal or illegal.

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If you see nothing wrong with this statement, you need to watch more PETA videos...

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It will be visible for the last biased actor. So begin testing the later rounds and work backwards.

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Don't you think it is scary to invest that much power in a post that is unelected and for life?

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Is it really a good idea to outline all the weak points on a public forum? (referring not just to this comment but to the group of similar comments)

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Why not? They're public knowledge anyway. There's a lot more into attack than just knowing how to do it. Hell, I'm betting half of HN would know how to make a crude atomic bomb.

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And yet other research says we should start studying/working later. Can't have it both ways.

http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2015/08/why-sch... http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/shortcuts/2015/sep/0...

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Better off just abolishing it. It's also been linked to more car accidents and such. If you want to set summer hours, fine, do that, but it's just silly to play with the clock to do so.

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There's no meaningful difference between abolishing DST and making DST permanent. It's really just a question about whether you'd permanently like a little more sun in the morning, or the afternoon.

In the Northern city that I live in, in the winter, a permanent DST would be preferable. We're already in the preferable situation 8 months of the year. No reason not to just extend it the other 4 months, permanently.

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If you read the linked article there is a meaningful difference due to the fact that the sunlight later in the day discourages crime due to more visibility during evening commutes.

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There's a meaningful difference, it the question of whether your whole timing system is based on a lie. Is midnight in the middle of the night? Is midday in the middle of the day?

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> There's a meaningful difference, it the question of whether your whole timing system is based on a lie. Is midnight in the middle of the night? Is midday in the middle of the day?

Solar midday already isn't the middle of the day in much of the world. It happens around 3pm for me in the summer, and before noon in the winter.

Not everyone in the world lives close to the equator. All time is, in a very real sense, just a consensual lie we agree to tell ourselves.

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Solar midday stays within a half hour range all year. It doesn't matter whether you're far from the equator.

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Sure there is. Some of us haven't ever used DST at all, so it changes with relation to time zones.

There's nothing wrong with changing one's hours to be a bit earlier in the day.

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> Sure there is. Some of us haven't ever used DST at all, so it changes with relation to time zones.

Your DST == Your standard time. Making your DST permanent is a NOP. Nothing changes for you.

> There's nothing wrong with changing one's hours to be a bit earlier in the day.

This is a distinction without a difference.

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Whether we end up aligned with mountain or Pacific time is a non-trivial difference. You're saying we should end up in a way that isn't grouped with the nearby geographic states.

Also, the reservations DO use DST here, so parts of the state would be permanently 1 hour off from the rest of the state in your construction and would never realign.

So yes, it makes a difference in which direction you align--one way the entire state will be uniform and the same as the other states in its longitude whereas the other it will be strangely divided.

Yeah, maybe we could adopt some permanent offset to match everyone, but that wouldn't be a 'no change' kind of thing.

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You do realize that the amount of hours of daylight one gets in one day is an immutable property of the rotation of the earth?

Calling 3:00 pm "Four O'clock" does not magically make the day longer, nor would it give you more sun in the afternoon.

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Yes, people realize that. Usually people must conform to societal norms which require one to do things at a certain time, which may not be synced with the natural time.

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> Calling 3:00 pm "Four O'clock" does not magically make the day longer

Right.

> nor would it give you more sun in the afternoon.

Wrong. "Afternoon" as commonly used is based on what hour it is, not what the sun is doing. Shift the clocks an hour, you change how much sun is in the afternoon by an hour.

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Sure you can! Go to work later, come home earlier. Problem solved!

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Genetic drift is a slow force, and medicine will easily be able to outpace it.

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Ugly loser bores may not be able to attract funny successful beauties. But they can still attract each other.

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But the rich and successful aren't having kids.

What we are currently selecting for is people who have lots of kids and let society pay for their upbringing.

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I think that is reasonable. The bulk of citations are used to give background for an article. To show what is already known and what is novel in the specific article.

E.g. "Foobars have previously been shown to be faster to widgets in vacuum[4][6][8]. In this article we examine whether this remains true in normal atmospheric conditions"

that should be more common than

"Foobars have previously been shown to be faster to widgets in vacuum[4][6][8] but those studies probably suck. In this article we examine whether they are faster in normal atmospheric conditions"

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