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Do you have a source for "criticizing other languages not installed on 3 billion devices as too academic" ?

Without more context, this comment sounds like rehashing old (personal?) drama.


pron has been posting about programming languages for years and years, here, in public, for all to see. I guess reading them makes it personal? (We don’t know each other)

The usual persona is the hard-nosed pragmatist[1] who thinks language choice doesn’t matter and that PL preference is mostly about “programmer enjoyment”.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16889706

Edit: The original claim might have been skewed. Due to occupation the PL discussions often end up being about Java related things, and the JVM language which is criticized has often been Scala specifically. Here he recommends Kotlin over Scala (not Java): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9948798


I thought you were harsh, but then I read this piece:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/peel-school-board-lib...

It's dispiriting to see librarians distort a normal process (deaccession) to cover up their own book banning.


In the article librarians talk about the normal process of weeding out old books, duplicates of rare accesses, etc.

The article itself contrasts that with school boards directing librarians to remove far more than tha regular weeding.

The boards set policy that the librarians are compelled to follow or risk being fired.


Yup, they employed intense scrutiny on books before 2008, followed by ideological filtering as you noted, resulting in empty library shelves.

On that note, it's sad to see the GP downvoted for raising this uncomfortable truth. I guess "deaccessioning" or "weeding" reveals a certain hypocrisy among those who supposedly hate banning books.


Bluesky has a real problem with outrage addiction; it's myopic to pin the blame on Adobe.


https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43413702 is one example.

A Rustacean implied Go was not memory safe and that Microsoft couldn't understand the power of Rust. Steve Klabnik & others told them off. But other Rustaceans, like Patrick Walton, argued that Go has memory safety issues in theory.


https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/abuse

Rustacean, Gopher... this is an embarrassing way of looking at it.

And, speaking of, Go is not a memory safe language when you reach for its concurrency primitives as it very easily lets you violate memory safety (as opposed to Rust, .NET and JVM, where instead you get logic bugs but not memory safety ones).


A former employee of Cyc did an insightful AMA on HN back in 2019: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21783828


> But the longer I worked there the more I felt like the plan was basically:

> 1. Manually add more and more common-sense knowledge and extend the inference engine

> 2. ???

> 3. AGI!

In retrospect, this reasoning doesn't seem to be so wrong.


I mean if I were to oversimplify and over-abstract AGI into a long list of if / elses, that's how I'd go about it. It's just that there's A Lot to consider.


Wait a second. You're saying now hg didn't influence git, but how does that fit with your previous comment?

> One particular aspect that often gets left out of this creation myth, especially by the author of Github is that Mercurial had a prominent role

I'm not sure where you're getting your facts from.


Mercurial had a prominent role in the creation myth. It didn't influence git, but it was there at the same time, for the same reason, and at one time, with an equal amount of influence. Bitbucket was once seen as fairly comparable to Github. People would choose git or hg for their projects with equal regularity. The users were familiar with both choices.

Linus never cared about hg, but lots of people that cared about git at one point would also be at least familiar with some notions from hg.


The GP put in the work to verify his own memory, after acknowledging the gaps. And then you belittled him.

He met the “standard” or guidelines of our community in a way you have not.


>The GP put in the work to verify his own memory, after acknowledging the gaps.

The original claim didn’t say anything about it being the experience of their son for specific questions about unions. It was much broader than that. And at least partially inaccurate, given the stated result isn’t even one of the results.

>And then you belittled him.

If asking for a higher standard of evidence for a broad claim than referencing a previous experience and then trying again, but not even sharing the link from a tool that makes it easy to share the conversation from, is considered belittling, then maybe the castrations going on in these models is the right way to go for this crowd. I, personally, aim for a more truth-seeking standard.

>He met the “standard” or guidelines of our community in a way you have not.

These are two different things, and you clearly understand that but are intentionally conflating them. Regardless, if this is where are, maybe HN no longer is the place for me.


The accusation is harsh, but I think Zig's BDFL had a point. V-lang seems to have been poorly led for many years.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27441848

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39503446

Many links paint a picture of constant false advertising, even deception.


Your comment has changed substantially from its initial version.

For the latest version: I think Anduril knows who they're looking for and how to get those people. This commercial, for example, is quite deliberate in filtering out the people they don't want https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXQrci3Wff8


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