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This thread is one of the best I've seen on HN. 1001 ways to screw yourself in bash. Love it. My contribution is a message from Mr. Odus himself- also a Reverend.

Don't do this unless you want a bad day: :)

  `printf "\ fr- mr odus"|rev`

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Sorry, but

  sudo rm -rf \
...doesn't do anything.

rev(1) doesn't reverse your slashes. :D

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I usually don't alias the command itself; that's bad form. It limits what you can do and screws you when you are using an environment without your alias when you forget it. Live and learn.

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1435 days ago- that's almost 4 years. I wonder if one day in 2034 someone will post a "done that" link with a conversation over 10k days old?

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The classics remain classic. Still wonder same about "The Mythical Man-Month" So true...

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FWIW I found that helpful as the old discussion made some interesting points that are not made invalid by the passing of a few years.

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From what I've read, it is better to get calcium from milk, vegetables like Spinach, Kale, Okra, Collards, or Soy or White beans, or some fish rather CaCO3. The Mayo clinic suggests taking CaCO3 with food, because stomach acid helps with the absorption: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/calcium-supplements/AN01428 Otherwise, Calcium Citrate may be a better choice.

The thing that worries me most about this diet is that, while in some ways it may be of great benefit in energy, etc., some of the side effects may not be seen for months, years, or perhaps a few decades.

It is an interesting experiment, but I think it would be a good idea if it were controlled and monitored by a doctor.

Also he said, "This is one case and it's only been a month". I ate almonds, peanuts, cheese, meat, and veggies for a few months, lost 15 lbs. But, since I've gained it all back and then some. One month at a new diet something hardly makes one an expert.

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> With nonfiction, it doesn't make sense at all.

That is the opposite of what I'd think. Nonfiction includes current topics like books on political figures. Fiction is all over the map and, with the exception of crossover titles like Primary Colors that were about current political figures but written as fiction, typically isn't tied to a current event in such a way that it matters what week it was on the NY times bestseller list for others to see that they might want to read it and buy it.

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Offtopic: everyone reading this stuff up here- scroll down to Tim O'Reilly's comment below before you jump on the O'Reilly bashing train.

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Off-topic only regarding the "self-publish or not" question. O'Reilly's comments should be required reading for anyone planning to jump on the "O'Reilly bashing train".

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Some of the things he said made sense though. Basically, if this guy wanted such rigid requirements, he should have stuck with a high-end custom publishing house. O'Reilly has never tried to make its name synonymous with a quality publishing house; they are known because they gave a voice to smart people in the tech world. Since then, it has expanded, mostly because techs no longer buy books in print as much as they did, and because to be profitable in a down market, you have to cut corners. The problem that plagued this author is that he associated the O'Reilly name with "high design quality" and that just isn't true. O'Reilly should be used when you want a recognizable publisher for tech books and to be included in their collection. If you are smart, you will also use the standard cover with an animal on it, such as a chinchilla.

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Yep, FF on mac here and it looks great. Why do people keep using Chrome, IE, Safari, and Opera?

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Soulless? Now, look. O'Reilly has gone downhill, but so has just about everything. The economy made people cut corners and care less about quality or customer service (where the customer in this case is you, the writer). But if they kept the same standards they had before while book sales dwindled, they would be bankrupt. That is the cold hard fact of it, and it is sad. We'd like to think that quality is always rewarded, but paper is becoming less relevant, and ebooks can be hacked and torrent'd + magnet'd or just plain shared. Any data based business whether it is books, music, or otherwise, is in the shitter and looking for a new gig. I by no means think that litigation and DRM are the answer; fear and bad cryptography are never the answer. But, these people don't have many options, and they are going to make bad choices.

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In addition, based on what Tim O'Reilly said in response, it sounds like the author was incredibly overdemanding compared to their typical author, and would have benefited from a small high-end custom publishing house. O'Reilly would be a great way to get published for anything that is primarily print; not a book on design with precise requirements, it would seem.

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You're a good guy, Paul. And I agree that things get too cynical and too negative.

Please continue to foster an environment that is positive and provide a good example, but if people feel like they are being manipulated, they are going to get pissed off. I used to get more pissed off than I do now, but I still get upset. I wish I didn't. I wish that everyone could live in peace and work together.

Maybe if HN we're self-policing via ability to flag comments and posts where enough flags means that it shows as username only with no post title/comment show unless "show" is clicked, no downvoting (a flagged and hidden post or comment could rank at the top), and without the user banning/ghosting stuff...

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> That's how you gauge the experience of a programmer: how much of the field she/he's terrified by.

I'm terrified by what I don't know, especially by what I don't know that I think I should know, to be "in the know".

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There's never a sure-fire anything in this world, but here are some tips:

* http://stackoverflow.com/a/14599129/178651

* http://stackoverflow.com/a/1029613/1395668

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