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FWIW on iPhone you can just create a shortcut to restart the phone

One click for me and it restarts fyi


One click where? Have you mapped it to the Action button on the newer phone models? Or do you launch the shortcut by tapping somewhere (widget on Control Center or elsewhere)?

Just create a shortcut and select an icon

It appears as an “app” like any other

Open it, will ask you to confirm, hit yes and it will restart


I wholeheartedly agree with you and it’s funny reading the replies to your comment.

Basically people just doubling down on everything you just described. I can’t quite put a finger on it but it has a tinge of insecurity or something like that, hope that’s not the case and me just misinterpreting


Not every business sets out to be the next Google

Loyal Kagi customer here, based on their posts and in my dealings with them, they are doing their thing and doing well

They are focused on privacy, do a great job of it, and their AI assistant is top notch (highly recommend you take a look, can choose from many models and swap out responses instantly, not even getting into the awesome search features)

Not commenting on your (good) who is the main audience question, rather the other point about if Kagi is doing well

I subscribed my girlfriend to it as well and tell people whenever the moment is appropriate

Really rooting for these guys to succeed long term

As an aside, when I got my Kagi subscription the first thing I did was lower Pinterest results


I hear a lot of good things about kagi but privacy isn't one. They need to record every search and connect it to your account. Duckduckgo is more known for privacy and searches well through tor.

Here are the stats: https://kagi.com/stats

How many are paid vs trial accounts?

We know family doesn't offer a trial nor teams.

126 teams x 5 or 6 members = 1,000 accounts at 10 per day 10k

4500 family plans: most will take the 20 a month plan 100k

45000 individuals lets say they are all paid most on the 5 dollar plans lets assume on average 6.50 is earned 300k

Then you have orion+ members at 2000 giving an extra $15 per account. 30k

They probably make 450k a month

They have 19 employees on linkedin and they are listed at under 50 everywhere else. Lets give them 25 employees at 100k average salary which would be 2.5 million in salaries which might be low.

Add on costs to actually run the website (paid search, servers, office costs) which hopefully cost less than 3.5 million.. the rest is profit.

I'd say they are doing well enough. My average of 5/6 per team might be much higher if they have a few 100+ sized teams. I think the mode would be 5/6 regardless of the average.


> I hear a lot of good things about kagi but privacy isn't one.

I don’t use it, but the Privacy Pass [0] thing should actually make it great for privacy if you care more about that than personalization.

[0]: https://blog.kagi.com/kagi-privacy-pass


> I hear a lot of good things about kagi but privacy isn't one. They need to record every search and connect it to your account.

Looking at their privacy policy they state the following:

> We may store web requests made by user browser temporarily, with strict retention periods, for debugging purposes, and in a manner that they are not linked to an account.

https://kagi.com/privacy#server-data


Is it actually true though? They've lied about other things, what stops them from lying about that?

For 2 years they've said "Kagi has zero marketing budget and spends zero on marketing", that's a lie and they still haven't changed it. They've sponsored over 200 youtube videos https://filmot.com/search/%22brought%20to%20you%20in%20assoc...


Do we know that they spend money on this or is that inferred?

I asked because the search you've linked to only seems to list relatively niche chess videos on one creator's account. And the videos themselves are also ad-supported. It's (at least) not impossible that the sponsorship association is not budgeted in the way that (I think) you infer.


https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40013889

https://kagifeedback.org/d/3822-kagi-is-sponsoring-youtube-v...

"I watched Daniel King for 10 years and have previously donated to him, now I am happy that we are in position to sponsor his work which I believe is extraordinary.", this also definitely sounds like monetary compensation to me.


Thanks! I see why they may not consider this "marketing", even though it is obviously a sponsorship based on that information.



I actually do like being locked in and knowing everyone that uses an iPhone has the same features as me

When you’re a startup they call this building an ecosystem and it’s cheered on, when you’re Apple and everyone wants a piece of the pie you’ve built, they call it something else

Believe it or not there are other people that are perfectly competent with technology that disagree with you

Like anything, some things should be opened up and don’t necessarily have to be - it’s ludicrous to have to use a lightning cable to charge only one device, but it’s not pressing to allow other garbage software onto the platform


> knowing everyone that uses an iPhone has the same features as me

Only if they use the same version


> I don’t want to see any tweets or blog posts or complaints or whatever later on about this. I’m publishing this now so you can make an informed decision about whether to buy a new watch or not. If you’re worried about this, the easiest solution is to buy an Android phone.

Agree or disagree with what he's saying, he sounds like a petulant child


I like to plug Kagi whenever I get a chance

Your subscription includes not just the stellar search engine, but access to their assistant as well, along with all their privacy benefits

What I love about assistant specifically is that it lets you switch between one of 10+ models. If you are curious for example how a different model would answer a prompt, within the same thread you can change the model and re-ask your question

Gemini, deepseek, Claude, mixtral, ChatGPT, etc

Definitely worth checking out - has definitely help me take advantage of these bots more


I recently migrated to Orion in order to continue using Ublock Origin, and became a Kagi subscriber as well. Very pleased with the results so far, and I have yet to try the assistant but I'll give that a go today.


Do they have privacy policy around their AI assistant?


Yes, they make the API calls anonymously

They don’t tie anything history back to your account, you can pay it with bitcoin even

It’s worth checking out their privacy policy - in a nutshell they do zero advertising and zero affiliate type stuff so they just don’t need to


Hm call me old fashioned, but hearing that this was done by people in Malta backed by people in London sort of broke my heart

I get HN isn’t sympathetic to this kind of stuff (ovarian lottery and all that jazz), but I, personally, much rather this have been some kids from a random town in Kansas or something vs pros from other countries

Edit: I think you are all confused and acting as if I didn’t understand why this happened or how, I was just making a sentimental lament, but I should know better by now


Where are "some kids from a random town in Kansas" going to get $24M dollars?



> but I, personally, much rather this have been some kids from a random town in Kansas or something vs pros from other countries

Well, that's the rub and ultimate downfall of our current implementation of capitalism.

Even if you have a good idea that almost nobody else has yet thought of, you've got to have enough resources to be able to comfortably execute it such that if you fail, your life won't be over. Most of the time, the only people who can do that already have a lot of money. So most innovators and innovation naturally have to come from people that already have money and connections; HOWEVER, there's very little reason to believe only good ideas come from people with money or power.

So little Timmy from Kansas might have even thought this was a nifty idea, but Timmy's dad is going to roll his eyes and get back to work. Nobody on the ground is ever going to be able to execute what is a relatively obvious play. Instead, they lose their time-advantage and big Timoteo from Malta comes in for the prize.

Worse still, big Timoteo has now accumulated more resources that puts him even further ahead of the pack for future such endeavours that should really need have success tied to starting resources.


He quite literally addresses this in the article


You alluded to this but I wanted to emphasize that a lot of this is just legacy baggage in terms of reputation that windows will have to carry for a long time

I think that when people talk about how shitty windows is compared to Mac/apple they are talking about stuff that was probably true at some point

For many, memories of using windows include blue screens of death, programs crashing often and windows itself crashing often. On top of that, windows was a cesspool for a hot minute while Microsoft got its act together and put better security in place to address malware as the internet got popular.

These are obviously not the same, not nearly as bad as they were back then

I mostly enjoyed windows, and to a lesser degree Linux until a few years ago when an employer made me switch to Mac - which for the sake of my brain’s plasticity I readily embraced

The main differences I noticed at the time were: a much better window manager, a much saner way of installing applications, an overall hard to explain smoothness along with the ability to bring over some of my favorite little Linux tools

Fast forward to today and it’s really just a matter of preference. Mac helped Linux a ton, but nowadays they are all so customizable that you can more or less achieve what you’re trying to do most of the time on any of them

Today, I use all three out of necessity - Mac and Linux for work, windows for gaming, but I can surely tell you that overall my best decision was to just not get involved in holy wars lol


What did it for me was a period of: “I see you are delivering an important presentation. Let me force install an update and reboot three times. Right now.” I’ve spent too long watching reboots to have Windows in my life for my limited time on the planet.


Yeah one wart about Windows is that you always have to lookup these weird registry hacks after getting a fresh install. Disabling this automatic reboot was one of them. Otherwise that would make your computer completely useless for things like

- gaming - watching movies - presentations - anything where you want to let some calculation run unattended for a few hours - anything where you really don't want your PC to shut down unexpectedly while you’re working…

Well that covers pretty much everything I guess.

And to add insult to injury, Windows 10 for a while took away the ability to Update & shut down. It’d go into some sort of hybrid sleep so you’d keep getting a reboot prompt right after starting up again.


Don’t mean to be antagonistic here, but do you have a source for the claim that trump took the win?

Would be really curious to see how this could be proven or at the very least convincingly induced.


Go look for how many ballots were disqualified in the swing states?


I googled around, but I couldn't find an authoritative source showing either the numbers disqualified, the reasons, and that those ballots were majority not-trump ballots.

Can you provide a source for that data for a specific swing state of your choice?


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