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> Every other option results in far less people discovering and interacting with your project, by orders of magnitude.

Yes, this is the problem. The article suggests: try to fix it.


Patreon knows that Patreon doesn't work - they don't fund themselves by donations on Patreon; instead they take a cut of other people's donations.

And the model where some patrons receive a reward encourages transactionalism and disappointed patrons when they don't get the reward they expected.

Liberapay's model seems much more sustainable - donations only, no rewards; Liberapay fund themselves via Liberapay because they actually believe their system works.


>Liberapay fund themselves via Liberapay because they actually believe their system works.

As in they are also funded by donations, or do the creators themselves pay for entry?


They say they are funded by donations:

> How is Liberapay funded? Are there fees?

> Liberapay does not take a cut of payments, the service is funded by the donations to its own account. However there are payment processing fees.

https://liberapay.com/about/faq


They are funded by donations: https://liberapay.com/Liberapay/

Do you suppose their 41 members split the 700 euros evenly each month or have some kind of Ramen group buy system?

No need to guess: https://liberapay.com/Liberapay/income/ . Most money goes to the creator of Liberapay, and I would not be surprised if it would mainly cover the costs of running the service.

Patreon also takes VC funding on a regular basis; if you ask Jack Conte what his plan is for when they come back around looking for profit he will just blow a bunch of sunshine up your ass about how all these investors are just totally great people who believe in supporting the arts.

When they raised rates for new creators but grandfathered in existing ones it was pretty much outed as a network effect VC scheme.

> Patreon knows that Patreon doesn't work - they don't fund themselves by donations on Patreon; instead they take a cut of other people's donations.

Huh? So does Paypal by taking a cut of payments. It does not work by people donating to Paypal. Does that mean Paypal doesnt work? The proposition does not make sense...


> And the model where some patrons receive a reward encourages transactionalism and disappointed patrons when they don't get the reward they expected.

More than that, I don't think Patreons will ever be able to compete in a world where Netflix/Max/Disney exists just by making content. For example, if you consider the $10 tier of The Command Zone[1], you'd have to weight that in against something like the Disney+ catalog, which I think is even cheaper and definitely has a lot more content?

[1] https://www.patreon.com/commandzone


Energy isn't the hard problem; it's materials. We're still consuming materials that we can't (yet?) make without fossil input.

Its OK to use fossil fuels as chemical feedstock in manufacturing. As long as we don't literally light it on fire for energy we can deal with the resulting reaction gasses.

In 500 years the idea that we ever burned our most valuable manufacturing chemical to keep warm is going to seem crazy. Petrochemicals are incredibly useful for making things.


Until they run out. We can't recycle anything 100%. Eventually we'll have to learn to do without.

Do you have examples of these materials?

concrete and steel are quite big

electric arc furnaces are quite widespread and there is also this: https://www.mining-technology.com/news/green-steel-hydrogen/

Which are these inputs? Any why do they need to be fossil?

You need carbon (coal) to make steel from iron.

Cement needs lots of heat to make it - from coal too. Also, cement is made from CaCO3 (limestone, the shell of ancient microorganisms). It releases the CO2 it contains when transformed into cement.


> You need carbon (coal) to make steel from iron.

Carbon in form of coal is currently used for three purposes in steel production:

1) Heat up the ore to high temperatures

2) Reduce iron oxide to iron.

3) Steel is an alloy of iron and carbon.

Only for the third of these carbon is essential, and that requires some tens of kilos carbon per ton of steel as opposed to more than 2 tons carbon per ton of steel. The two first ones can be replaced by electrical heating and hydrogen respectively. There are currently being built some factories in northern Sweden for doing this, using hydrogen produced by hydropower. Without sufficient tax on carbon or customers willing to pay the extra for "green steel", it is not cost competitive for now.


The coal used for reduction of iron ore to iron can be replaced with hydrogen through direct reduction. See Hybrit which has working industrial scale demonstration plant today, though at reduced capacity. Full capacity plants are planned in multiple locations by 2036.

My guess is that the coal could come from wood? The heat could definitely come from nuclear power.

However, the processing of the limestone might be more difficult. But then again, that also seems like insignificant emissions when the other ones are taken out, no?


Making cement without baking the limestone, which itself releases carbon plus the burning of gas to make the heat, is possible and is being piloted now. We just lack the will to mandate these changes.

Most plastics

> The Authenticated Transfer Protocol, aka atproto, is a federated protocol for large-scale distributed social applications.

Well, there's the problem: large-scale and social are incompatible. Humans evolved to be sociable with maybe a few hundred people.

No-one has ever made a good restaurant by inventing a system to deliver millions of calories per second to each diner.


The scale is the whole system, so many different groups of people.

To take your restaurant comparison that'd be like saying McDonalds is an average sized restaurant, which might be true for each individual McDonalds, but not for the entire system of the McDonalds chain of restaurants.


I haven't followed the tech of Bluesky or the AT Protocol closely: does this step mean that people can now set up their own Bluesky instances? Where can I see one in the wild?

Bluesky doesn't have "instances", it has PDSes, Relays, and AppViews. People can run their own PDSes but PDSes are kind of invisible so you won't "see" them. You'll just see the whole Bluesky network as usual.

What I mean is: where is the website other than bsky.app where I can see content from the network?

The bsky.app web app is a JavaScript app that runs in a browser. It talks to an AppView (API server) which talks to a Relay which talks to all PDS hosts on the network.

There are other clients for Bluesky that do the same thing as the bsky.app web app: https://docs.bsky.app/showcase?tags=client


> Beyond that: it's literal word of mouth.

This is the key.

If you have enough enthusiastic, loyal, (rich and/or generous) devotees, then you can make a living from their donations (e.g. Liberapay) or subscriptions (e.g. Patreon). If you're doing something worthwhile or even just fun, you've probably got some.

But if you don't — and this going to sound harsh about a labour of love — then evidently other people aren't (yet!) willing to pay you to focus solely on it. Maybe there's enough to cover some or all of the costs, or even make a surplus (but not a living), and you can carry on as a hobby/part-time/side-project.

But for the thing to continue existing, someone (maybe you!) has to care about it enough to pay for it, and Google certainly doesn't. Google doesn't know anything about the unique service you provide; it only knows about the words on your website, and it can get those same words ten-a-penny from other websites.

If Google's killing your site now, that means Google's been keeping it on life support since… whatever your previous strategy was. They're selfish money-getters, they never promised you page views or ad revenue, and you're not useful to them any more.


Google can still kill your site even if you're a word of mouth, pateron, liberapay funded site...

That is by having scammers feed of the keywords of your product and selling shitty bullshit/scams siphoning the people that were told 'word of mouth' yet use browsers like chrome.


Patreon has a similar issue : they've banned some people for political reasons.

Aurora Store is a different app, but it shows the same repo managed by Google.

If an app has been removed from the “Play Store”, that means it's been removed from the repo, and a different front-end to that repo won't include it.


Chrome isn't open source.


Firefox's unique selling point was that you could trust it. Mozilla taught me that open source software was free from skeevy used-car-salesman commercial advertising tricks.

This morning at work when I opened Firefox, instead of a blank tab it showed a popup advert saying “New device in your future?”. I found this string on bugzilla.mozilla.org, and apparently it's supposed to be an advert for setting up a Mozilla Account.

This is too stressful. I need a tool I don't have to second-guess all the time.

I've used Firefox for 20 years. I wish it would go back to behaving like a not-for-profit I can trust.

(Also, if anyone from Fedora is listening, please consider whether having this sort of user experience in an app installed by default harms your reputation more or less than GNOME Web would.)


Flathub, as the most popular repo, ought to be a sensible default for ordinary users. So it shouldn't be purist if that means losing widely-expected apps, but it should have distinctly less shovelware than the Microsoft and Android stores' reputations (and Flathub seems to be taking steps in the right direction here).

I'd like for there to be a well-stocked Flatpak repo with policies like F-Droid's: they insist on rebuilding everything themselves, and they enthusiastically label potential anti-features. But that doesn't have to be Flathub, because using several Flatpak repos at once is easy. (This is really my only objection to Snap.)

Come to think of it, what I'm describing is a traditional Linux distro, so maybe Fedora and PureOS's existing Flatpak repos already fit the bill.


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