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It was a breeze, back in the RAD / Delphi days..


China is so much ahead of everyone else in tech, space and automation. It's not funny anymore.


China's progress and this accomplishment are very impressive, the more the merrier. But NASA does have two nuclear powered humvees driving on Mars at the moment.


And until recently, a helicopter :)


In the space industry, the US is so much ahead of everyone else. SpaceX is the long pole in the tent, but there are many other startups doing cool stuff.


Despite advancements, China still relies on key technologies from other countries, such as semiconductor manufacturing, where the U.S., Taiwan, and South Korea are leaders.

The U.S. and other countries maintain a strong lead in original innovation, with Silicon Valley and other tech hubs producing groundbreaking technologies and startups.

While China has made significant progress, the U.S. (through NASA and private companies like SpaceX) has more extensive and diverse achievements in space, including reusable rockets and plans for Mars colonization.

Countries like Japan and Germany are leaders in robotics and automation technologies, with advanced systems and innovations that often surpass those of China.

China faces criticism for intellectual property theft and lack of respect for IP laws, which undermines perceptions of its technological advancements.

Although China produces a high volume of research, the quality and global impact of research from the U.S. and Europe are often considered higher.


Don't the US and Europe also rely on key technologies from other countries?


Yes, but the claim is not "US and Europe is so much ahead of everyone else in tech, space and automation that it's not funny anymore" but that China is. So, while the answer to your question is "of course" it's not relevant to the claim.


shhhhh! China bad, USA good


> Despite advancements, China still relies on key technologies from other countries, such as semiconductor manufacturing, where the U.S., Taiwan, and South Korea are leaders.

Doesn't the US (and most of the world) rely on Taiwan for semiconductors as well?

> The U.S. and other countries maintain a strong lead in original innovation, with Silicon Valley and other tech hubs producing groundbreaking technologies and startups.

There's nothing like WeChat in the west yet. I'm not sure this strong lead is still there.

> Although China produces a high volume of research, the quality and global impact of research from the U.S. and Europe are often considered higher.

By whom?

It's important to consider that China and the US/Europe didn't start on equal footing.

Just 75 years ago China was ages behind the US. The speed at which they're progressing is mindblowing, especially considering their population.

Compare China with India, if your intent is to do a fairer comparison.


> There's nothing like WeChat in the west yet. I'm not sure this strong lead is still there.

China has a lot of really impressive technology and innovation happening. An app store inside a messaging app is not what I would point to as groundbreaking from a technology standpoint.


It's not an app store inside a messaging app, it's a mega app. You can do literally everything with it, from home banking to payments to filing for divorce and booking a doctor.


> China has a lot of really impressive technology and innovation happening.

Such as?


On the other side the US Apollo rock samples from the moon are now lost somewhere in dusty warehouses, disinterested, neglected and unaccounted for.

There was an incident few years ago, where a couple had stolen some moon dust, spread it on their bed sheets and has sex on top.


>The U.S. and other countries maintain a strong lead in original innovation, with Silicon Valley and other tech hubs producing groundbreaking technologies and startups.

What are these groundbreaking technologies? Social apps? Marketing automation tools? Ride sharing apps?


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I agree, we all stooped to this point because all we did was laugh at them as they outsmarted us and played for keeps.


I mean, the first robotic sample return was in 1970: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luna_16

This is more a case of "no-one has really been able to make an economic case for doing this sort of thing since the 70s."


Elon Musk is ahead of everyone else in space. While nice, this and everything else anyone has done this and past decade in space is much less significant than the far more economical rockets Musk has built, basically with his bare hands.


Not just Elon Musk, there are so many talented Engineers at SpaceX, and they are doing the hard work day in and day out.


Right, however it is customary to ascribe accomplishments to the person making the work possible rather than those who execute it. The same engineers won’t do as much anywhere else.


Canada used to be a great country not that far in the past.


When? The last residential school closed in 1996, so anything before that is out.


Do I think side-loading and alt app stores would make iPads and iPhones more versatile devices? Yes.

Will I ever install something side loaded? No.


Does anyone care about what you do with your own devices? No.

Should your position impose any limitation on what people can do with their own devices? Also no.


Are you hating because UK doesn’t get this? Can I not tell what I do with my device? I am not imposing anything, especially to weening people. FFS.


way too much


Low value + high cost is a tough sales even for a company with a pretty impressive brand quality. That said I am interested to see the third iteration and where that lands.


AVP actually erodes the brand value given the price and value proposition if seen together.


Samsung? Really?


I mean they're a company from a strongly allied nation who operates 13 fabs, why not?


I guess the implication was that are still innovating unlike Intel


Is there any success stories out of this program?


Yes


Apple is in their right to do whatever they want with their platform. Tim Sweeney will be remembered with the guy who cries against anything Apple does, together with the guy from Ruby on rails.


no, because they are gatekeepers and they operate within countries that have laws and regulations

Apple is not above the law... you cannot host pedofile stuff on YOUR platform because there are laws against it

heck I use a private rail company that travels on the rails built by the other state rail company thanks to EU law

they are better, have self check-in, bought double decker trains and the other train company laughed at them because these trains were designed originally for smaller distances

it is of course much more economical and this state rail company just ordered the same trains

the device and OS of Apple is like the rail tracks, people use them not Apple, and as long as they have that big marketshare they own the rails that developers MUST use

Apple would have just said no, double decker trains are not secure, everybody has to use our secure design on our rails because we protect our customers

monopoly hinders not just competitive prices but innovation too


Yeah they did the correct thing, only to get their airplanes falling like apples.


Airplanes falling like apples isn't a bad thing; the only bad thing is delivering poor shareholder value. If some planes crash as a result of improved shareholder value, that's fine. Just ask the FAA (or just look at how the FAA "punished" Boeing for these failures that cost the lives of hundreds).


Apparently for some people the correct thing is profit over safety/quality which is quite sociopathic and the cancer that is killing our society.


Interesting use of "Fire" rather than "let go". Fire will always get more eyeballs though. But these people did nothing wrong.


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