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Yes, after the recent promotional event at the White House I can easily imagine protecting Teslas becomes a top priority, and that damaging one is punishable by death.


Trump did literally say during that event that attacking Tesla showrooms was domestic terrorism.


I'm sure the apartheidist made similar statements when Musk was a child. Didn't really work out for them IIRC.


It is unequivocally terrorism to participate in violence against civilians with the aim of causing political change. And it's domestic because it's here. It's definitionally correct.


It is not definitionally correct because when you or I say "domestic terrorism", despite being the same text and same sound, it is not the same as when the administration says "domestic terrorism". All they're saying is that they care to stop people damaging tesla's. Not that they are going to be stopping the dictionary definition of "domestic terrorist"


It’s against property, and political change is a vague aim, if any. In my book it’s just vandalism.


Spray painting Teslas is not "violence against civilians". Even setting fire to them in a showroom is debatable if it's at night when no one's about.


It is terrorism, indisputably. Arguing other point is relatively inconsequential. But if we were to argue the point, to argue that spray-paint isn't "violence" isn't going to have much credibility when it's perceived to be from the long standing "words are violence" and "silence is violence" crowd. A selective standard is no standard at all. How the spray paint differs is that it is property destruction in service of intimidation toward a political end.


Does that mean that Republicans engaged in terrorism when they threatened to hang journalists, shoot immigrants or Democrats, etc.? Seems like the courts might be overloaded if we redefine every threat as an act of terrorism.



We need a new word then, for hijacking planes and driving explosives-laden boats into tankers.

Any ideas?


Why? Not all crimes with the same name is of the same severity.


This would merely reflect the new reality which we clearly saw last week.


He's doing alright but might not have all the data.


Both Mussolini and Hitler were seen as bumbling fools by most of their contemporaries. Before they seized power, that is.


You are correct, and this is indeed a valuable lesson: https://archive.is/xh2Ci

I'm still sticking to the comment, even in awareness of history and having entertained the comparison. Let's hope I'm not proven wrong.


They weren’t wrong. Both led their countries through a series of terrible decisions that cost millions of lives and destroyed their own societies.

Bumbling fool seems apt to me.


A Washington Post columnist has been tracking the media coverage of Hitler's first 100 days. It's interesting how much people viewed him as bumbling or harmless or or or. https://www.instagram.com/petula_d/


you're right, but Hitler could live in the metaphorical shadows for years on end.

The information era works for and against us here in showing the truth but also efficiently spreading misinfroamtion. But moments of seeing them objectively on camera will eventually shine the truth.


Why adversaries? Just think of all the big beautiful deals you can make with them.


I'm sure there are states - perhaps not nearby - that will offer exciting opportunities to former civil servants.


Iran, NK, China would love em!


My point exactly.


They could even let then work remotely!


Just about all of the blue states could benefit from a good team of engineers imo


Would be cool if California hired them all and made a nice but inexpensive office building somewhere near housing and public transportation and had them help clean up all the inefficiency in our state's tech systems.


Would love that. Does California have housing and public transportation though? (Joking)


How long until this is removed from the front page?


Hopefully it won't be at all. Seems pretty relevant to the tech-industry if entire departments of competent tech-industry folks are getting laid off by the federal government.

While it might be political, it is also economic and directly relevant to the hacker/startup ecosystem.


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Ok however, the blame for toxicity really needs to be redirected more towards the people making these decisions and less toward the people complaining about them. This is destroying people’s livelihood and will continue to do so for many years to come.


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> the guy who has been at the bleeding edge of technology for the last two decades

In what way does working on the bleeding edge of technology qualify someone to make sweeping decisions in a completely unrelated problem domain? Especially when those decisions impact literally the entire world?


Why is he making any decisions? He's not a confirmed cabinet appointment.


That's a fun fantasy to entertain but his actions over the last few years have proven it to be just that.


Elon. does. not. make. cars. Elon. does. not. build. rockets.

His strength is leading and believing people who do. Lately however, he’s shown he is not mentally fit for that role. He’s on a crusade more for personal reasons than altruism.

His past accomplishments have been seeing opportunities in failing products that seemed impossible. We're not talking about moonshot startups that really don’t affect a ton of people if they fail.

We’re talking about long established programs that are helping people or keeping people alive. He has ZERO experience with managing this.

I’m just as in favor of cutting bureaucracy as anyone else but I assure you the people making these decisions are not interested in cutting bureaucracy, they’re the ones who created it.


Like idk how long I need to hear about all the great things in tech he’s done when I see his handiwork in an actual tech company over at X. Maybe he was a grifter all along?


> The presumption of course is that everything Elon Musk is doing is stupid

Not stupid. Evil.

The man took pleasure in gutting a major pillar in the world's fight against tuberculosis[1]. This is mass murder, and it's just one of the ways they're causing mass death, likely in the millions over the years to come.

"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities," said Voltaire. Musk operated one of the biggest misinformation machines in history, got unchecked power of the US government, and now he's moved on to the atrocities phase.

[1] https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/tuberculosis/usaid-funding-freeze...


> The presumption of course is that everything Elon Musk is doing is stupid

Really? My perception is that everything I've seen him do is on its face stupid, even though my perception was that he might do useful things.

Let's take just one data point: he stood up and smirked that he fired everyone working on Ebola response, and of course that was a mistake. Yet those people are still fired. Do you have any counterexamples where he did something not stupid?


At which point you're no longer able to bury your head in the sand?


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Do you think there is a role for the federal government to employ engineers for any purpose? 18F was a general purpose engineering group that built software for many agencies instead of having those agencies pay vast amounts of money to Deloitte/Accenture/Booz Allen etc for a worse quality product.


How does 18F fit your definition of "bureaucracy", though?


Why do we need to do this? Let me ask it another way, do you think Russia and China are happy with cutting the fed bureaucracy to the bone? Or just the Heritage Foundation?


You have a stance that would be unfair to ask you to explain via HN. Instead I’ll just ask, what’s a good starting point for understanding why you think the government needs to be unraveled? Libertarianism or something akin to anarcho-capitalism?


I would say with regards to bureaucracy, no one has put it more succinctly than Trotsky, though complaints about the bureaucracy harken back to the Ancient Greeks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Revolution_Betrayed

I have met many, many politicians in my day. 95% of them are feckless, spineless, covetous cretins. But the bureaucrats are worse.


Is that from personal experience?


vacuous platitudes from the stagnance of swamps


Then why are you complaining in the comments?


Not a Ukrainian but I know a good few. The language is taught at schools so you if you’re not educated in the Soviet Union you will know it. Whether you choose to use it is a different matter. And data would suggest that the usage is on the rise.


I've been in Ukraine last year and one thing I noticed that while people speak in Russian or in a dialect in private, they instantly switch to Ukrainian in public, like when ordering an ice cream from the street stall. They then switch back among them. It's fascinating how things changed in a few years.


That what I mean above, most people don't speak "modern Ukrainian". Even the language itself drastically changed on TV just in years.


> if you’re not educated in the Soviet Union you will know it

My grandparents and parents and siblings all learned Ukrainian in school during Soviet times. This is in what now would be considered a predominantly Russian-speaking part of Ukraine btw.


Ukrainians should pray to USSR because of active Stalin times ukrainization.


As a Pole I have a similar reaction to Czech and Slovak. Except it feels less like a strange accent (because we don’t have these as much) and more like baby talk. We get the words, just how they’re used feels unusual, and often funny.

From the other side, my Czech friends told me that Polish sounded to them like something from deep antiquity. Like reading an ancient manuscript where again you get the words but no sane person these days would use them like this.


> since it uses lock files on S3 versus a separate DyanamoDB + S3 combo

This is disturbing because S3 does not give you guarantees required to implement real locking.


https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/aws/amazon-s3-update-strong-rea... guarantees that a client's lockfile can always be seen by other clients immediately (which didn't used to be true). If every client backs off and retries after a race, is that enough?


I think not, actually. There would still be cases where a race is not detected. I can think of the following sequence: A checks - no lock, B checks - no lock, A writes - success, A reads - match, success, B writes - success, B reads - match, success. A and B both think they now hold the lock.

For locking to work properly you'd need to have a conditional write that would fail if some prerequisite was not met. GCP offers that operation, S3 AFAIK does not.


I'm no expert but from a quick glance at https://www.pulumi.com/docs/concepts/state/#using-a-self-man... it looks like this might work:

  client A lists s3://bucket/prefix/.pulumi/locks/, sees nothing

  client B lists s3://bucket/prefix/.pulumi/locks/, sees nothing

  client A creates s3://bucket/prefix/.pulumi/locks/unique1.json

  client A lists s3://bucket/prefix/.pulumi/locks/, only sees unique1.json, and proceeds

  client B creates s3://bucket/prefix/.pulumi/locks/unique2.json

  client B lists s3://bucket/prefix/.pulumi/locks/ and sees both unique1.json and unique2.json

  client B assumes it lost a race, deletes s3://bucket/prefix/.pulumi/locks/unique2.json, and retries
There's another mode where both clients pessimistically retry, but fuzzing a retry delay could eventually choose a winner randomly.


In this case you have the opposite issue, with no-one actually guaranteed to get a lock even though nothing is holding one. Fuzzed retries may work in practice but theoretically speaking this is a flawed algorithm.


Hm, I can sort of imagine a way to use lockfile names to claim a random position in a queue of pending changes, but I don't know if anyone has been worried enough to do that. In practice Pulumi seems to give up instead of retrying: https://github.com/pulumi/docs/issues/11679


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