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Probably a lot. I’ve never learned about so many disparate subjects as I have over the last two years with LLMs.

Why is it always these supremely weak arguments and rationalizations against LLMs that come from people that have been intelligent, at least based on their comment histories, for so many years. It’s radicalizing me. I want a data center everywhere and I want tokens to be so cheap they’re like electricity or water.


> Why is it always these supremely weak arguments and rationalizations against LLMs that come from people that have been intelligent, at least based on their comment histories, for so many years. It’s radicalizing me. I want a data center everywhere and I want tokens to be so cheap they’re like electricity or water.

What do you think the impact of "tokens to be so cheap they’re like electricity or water" will be? I think people who are intelligent and don't have their heads stuck in the sand see the implications of that. Why should people with money pay people to for intelligence, when they can buy machine intelligence very cheaply?

I guess it will free up smart people to finally take jobs that don't use their intelligence, or sit around scraping by on minimum-wage-like UBI (if we're so lucky).


Learning "about" a subject and actually learning a subject are totally different things.

Soon they might be as cheap as electricity, even if token price doesn't change

At school i was made to read all of shakespeare. It wasnt about passing tests. Any LLM can read shakespeare and pass a test. I was made to read shakespeare so that i would appreciate language in the hope that i would strive to improve my own. That still counts.

I am a soldier and language is vital in every day of my job. Tone, word choice, cadence ... all of it conveys meaning in a way that an LLM simply cannot. Soldiers will not follow an AI up a hill, nor will they follow those they know use AI to pretend they understand a subject.

Want to sound smart? Watch blackadder. Want to win no-win aguements through wit? Watch Archer. Want to inspire your troops to do somthing unpleasant? read and watch shakespeare. An LLM can teach you nothing that really counts.


None of this is relevant to the argument above. There is no reason to believe these archives are equivalent to Shakespeare even if one were to agree with you that Shakespeare is that important to read.

> An LLM can teach you nothing that really counts.

Nothing you wrote supports that argument.

None of us can read everything. None of us can even read every novel published in a single month. So we filter. One way an LLM can teach you is as an excellent way of filtering information and give you a chance to read what really counts.


Ya. Try reading a few hundred pages of historical documents. Expertise does not come from the facts that an LLM can so easily integrate. It comes from understanding the mindset of the people who wrote those pages. Do it properly and you should start to speak and write like those people. The path to becoming an expert on the East India cannot be shortcuted via an LLM.

I don’t think anything is going to change for actual mathematicians. The only jobs they were getting were in universities and schools as teachers and professors anyways and you’re always going to need those.

Most of my fellow math students work now in software engineering or consulting. There aren't a lot of professor positions available.

Sounds like a pyramid scheme

I still don’t even understand what the upside down triangle is

It’s just an extrapolation of existing long term trends. Unless we hit some sort of hard cap we’ll probably get there.

What the hell are you talking about? In a lot of companies and I mean a lot, developers haven’t hand written their code in months.

Or they can just take your money and not send out anything.

Alternatively, you just act as a middleman drop shipper and slightly raise the price more than Amazon’s and skim the difference. It might be a while before they find out.


Example, parking places with QR codes for paying webapps.

Currently a plague in some European countries.

It looks like the real site, and you pay twice, in the fake app, and later the police.


That’s an insecure design. The way we do it here is that you install an app and register your register number and payment card in it. Then when you drive in and out from the parking lot your license plate is scanned and you’re automatically charged. There’s only two providers so it’s not a huge hassle, if there was a single app per garage it would not really work from UX perspective.

No room for hostile social engineering.


Are you sure to install the right app though?

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyjqg578e1o

And given your German nickname, here isn't safe either in a general way, when folks aren't regularly parking on the same place.

https://www.adac.de/news/verkehr-quishing-parkautomaten


Yep. On a small scale, you could skim money off transactions. On a large scale, you could break global distribution and logistics chains.

VPN and a virtual machine that downloads torrents. Host your blog on it if you don’t get a lot of visitors.

This comment reeks of the rapidly dwindling AI doomer rationalizing.

How much more scientific methodology do you want than formalized lean proofs?

What is this nonsensical complaining about templates and formats? You know that’s just like one additional ask of that particular LLM away.


Pretty much every published paper I see now is a combination of Chinese and Indian immigrant authors. Given enough time they all become American. I don’t see what the problem is.

My only complaint with Clickspring is that it takes so long. I feel like it has been 10 years at this point since he started the Antikythera mechanism build, but I could be wrong.

Suddenly I am struck blind and unable to distinguish any difference between Clickspring's Antikythera mechanism and Project Binky.

Spoiler warning: Starting in 2013, two mechanics graft a Celica GT-Four drivetrain into an Austin Mini. Now thirteen years later, Episode 43 came 12 days ago and they drove it. Project Binky drives!! it drives!!! In our lifetime!!

https://youtu.be/6WaPEUnV0ts


I think he took some time off to write up some academic contributions that he discovered as a result of working on the mechanism

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